International standard? never

Defended the halfs last year, as they had no platform, but was given that today, but failed to deliver.

Only positive is Kelky coming, who should be raring to go.

Early days,start hitting the panic button in August and get behind the team. I can't believe some people are writing the team off after 4 games.

No one is panicking, merely saying that new players but same old rubbish served up. Other than a decent performance against Leeds weve been as bad as the last 2 years, worse maybe as we battered rovers at home last year and beat Wigan away.

It's not the team I'm worried about.

Thought we might win today but 2hf poor. Few bodies back next week. Still early days but we do need a few back. Big game next week

Sneyd kicking game well off..still waiting for Connor to turn up for today's game..Sao best player on the pitch imo and that's both teams.

This is where their argument falls down!!

Conner is defiantly not a 6. For me centre MAYBE do a job at covering fb when required.

Kelly should be at 6 every time. Although ifnhebis to leave end of the season, I can see why we are trying conner at 6, asbi thought he might do a decent job there. Not so much.

With Kelly in a 6, it does make sneyd look a lot better player, as we have a organiser and a running back on the pitch then.

Obviously, missing satae and sav who played well to start, has hurt ourngame plan, with ligi Taylor etc get us going forward and opens upmthe field for halves and backs to do damage.

Ratu and Carlos are huge players for us also, ratu with is speed power and tries, Carlos with his clever rugby mind, twinkle toes and tries.

Fonua clearly isnt up to speed, but thats to be expected with his injury lay off. When he is fully fit, I'd have him and ratu on our wings. With conner and Carlos at centre. Yes that means having Griff onnthw bench to cover centre and second rower (which isn't popular opinion) as lane, for me, just isnt cutting it however you look at it.

Fash and masi, another two, who just dont seem to bring enough to the table either. Id rather bienek play from the bench then either.

Carrying Johnstone on the bench isnt working for me either. Unless youre spelling him for Houghton. Not for either of them to play at 13.

I'm calling players nor am I on a witch hunt etc just my observations(for what it's worth)

Onwards and upwards. Catalan game even more important now.

#coyh

2016 won the first two easily, lost the next 3...rest of the season wasn't that bad

Pretty sure Pearson said Pre season with the money spent and Players brought in, a Grand final appearance is the least he and the club expects?

Hes been excellent so far. Definitely the pick of our new signings. Shame we haven't got a decent 4th prop as he would be better playing 13 with a bit more space. His run and pass for the try last week was top drawer.

I've said it already but signing fonua was a poor decision for the squad make up

Team meeting on the pitch post game today.

I have always agreed with you on the lack of a 4th experienced front row.
As someone mentioned it looks like the Fonua signing was made from the heart rather than the head.
He obviously still isnt fit.Just how long does he need?

Fonua will be a good signing long term, particularly when Ratu leaves next year. Pack isn't a problem, it's our half backs and attacking structure.