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| Quote: WormInHand "You really only have to look at Wigan this season to see what difference a coach can make.
McGuire inherited virtually the same side that Noble left last year - but they're obviously in a completely different league to last season.
Same players - utterly different level of motivation. Roberts being the finest example. Only one person can be responsible for that and that's the coach. Many thought Noble was hard done to last season after taken Wigan to decent play-off runs for the last two seasons (a finer record than Agar's it must be said) but Wigan's board has clearly been vindicated for their "brave" decision.
If Hull are going to do this then they need to make that decision sooner rather than later. I've got a big feeling of deja vu now, and guess Agar won't need more than the Easter period to confirm for me that this season is going the same way as the last two. If that's proven, the board must be brave and act then, I'm afraid.
I do, however, sincerely hope that I am wrong and we blast Rovers off the CP pitch, hammer Wire into the KC park then go and show the "Champions" why it's Bluey that should be the first coach to go. But who really thinks that is going to happen now?'"
Interesting that this time last year most people on here wanted either Bluey or Brian McDermott as our new coach
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Interesting that this time last year most people on here wanted either Bluey or Brian McDermott as our new coach
I do like McClennan and think it would be unfair for either him or McDermott to go - their injuries are as massive as ours were last season. Agar rightly was given more time to prove himself with a fully fit squad.
What now, though?
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| Most of us are not privvy to the insider going on of TEAM FC, most of us do however have watched FC for a number of years. We have seen them through good and bad, we have supported them throught those times and we can clearly see things are not right. Many fans remember last season and the way it ended up, the signs are there now we are heading in the same direction. A loss at KR and then the Wire on Monday will invoke a crowd reaction at that game and from there on in he is on borrowed time. I don't care if he is nice bloke or not he is there to coach FC and give the teams the tools to do the job and he is clearly failing. I would employ the biggest nastiest coach in the league as long as he gets results. I am constantly hearing " he is a nice bloke " or " so and so says he is a good coach", I like many others can see clearly the preparations have been all wrong.
No doubt the performance last night will be blamed on ref, injuries or players not doing as instructed as usual, trouble is some of us a getting a little tired of the same guff. It wears thin after a while and no amount of excuses or spin will cover up the shortcomings of TEAM FC, the team spirit in the team is not as it appears or what they tell us it is either. The team is split into factions and the blame for that lies with one person, sod the Tongan mafia its the Westie mafia that rule.
The balance of the team is all wrong and we can and will suffer for that our backs are far to slow and or inexperienced. Teams will now target our backs and not be drawn into a forward battle and even as I write this Justin will be working out his battle plan to use his better backs against ours. We are getting that predictable and close to the line we incapable of scoring unless it comes off a kick.
Give Agar more time by all means, but be prepared to suffer as a result.
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| Phil Brown's having a spot of bother with his begonias..........
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| Quote: Sexual Deviant "Phil Brown's having a spot of bother with his begonias..........
Is he putting them under the sunbed too long?
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| Quote: Kosh "He has a point. There is absolutely no reason for personal insults, either about Agar or other posters. This is an area you seem to struggle with all the time. Civility costs nothing.'"
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| Quote: Ian P " Teams will now target our backs and not be drawn into a forward battle and even as I write this Justin will be working out his battle plan to use his better backs against ours. We are getting that predictable and close to the line we incapable of scoring unless it comes off a kick.
Give Agar more time by all means, but be prepared to suffer as a result.'"
It's not rocket science, is it? Said our weakness had been sussed after Wigan
I'm getting a bad feeling about the season ahead. No sign of a new winger and the team spirit seems to be descending into apathy just like the last two years. What does go on behind our closed doors?
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| The sad thing is at the beginning of the season I ,along no doubt with others, was feeling very confident.Unfortuanatly,this is starting to evaporate now.I stated a while ago that if Agar could do nothing with this squad he has no hope.
I am now starting to sweat a little over Good Friday.
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| Quote: WormInHand "You really only have to look at Wigan this season to see what difference a coach can make.
McGuire inherited virtually the same side that Noble left last year - but they're obviously in a completely different league to last season.
Same players - utterly different level of motivation. Roberts being the finest example. Only one person can be responsible for that and that's the coach. Many thought Noble was hard done to last season after taken Wigan to decent play-off runs for the last two seasons (a finer record than Agar's it must be said) but Wigan's board has clearly been vindicated for their "brave" decision.'" But what happens if Wigan don't get that far in the play offs this year? Is it failure? Bring back Nobby? Will the Wigan fans be happy with the league leaders shield but not getting to Old Trafford?
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| Cast your minds back a few months, i got fed up of Long, Fitz and any other new face that came to the club saying "after speaking with Rich Agar, what a good coach he is, thats why ive come to a big club like Hull FC"
It got embarrassing hearing the same spin all the time when, after watching 2 years of dross under his regime, even the normal man on the street thought the opposite.
Signing was nothing to do with the money then?
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| Quote: t.m.t.b.f. "Cast your minds back a few months, i got fed up of Long, Fitz and any other new face that came to the club saying "after speaking with Rich Agar, what a good coach he is, thats why ive come to a big club like Hull FC"
It got embarrassing hearing the same spin all the time when, after watching 2 years of dross under his regime, even the normal man on the street thought the opposite.
Signing was nothing to do with the money then?'"
It's always obvious that quotes attributed to new signings in press releases (at any club) come from the club rather than the player.
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "It's always obvious that quotes attributed to new signings in press releases (at any club) come from the club rather than the player.'"
Then why do they quote it? That must cheese the player off straight away before he even plays or do they have the "print what you fookin like, that contracts amazin" attitude.
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| print this ....AGAR OUT
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| IMO I never have thought agarright man for the job. He's a fool without a clue!!! Reminds me of " the fonzy " in the waterboy when things aren't going right.. get shot of now and stop the fans living with the embarrassment of this fool.. we deserve better!!
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| This side we have has had some good wins but has been inconsistant which is the problem and that is down to the coach's motivation of the skillful squad he has at his disposal,
What do you think will happen if Agar goes?
Will the job be advertised nationally and also in New Zealand and Australia with all C.Vs carefully fine tooth combed to get the best man available in on a top wage?
We all know the answer to that one from the last ten years past experience.
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