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| Quote: Kosh "That's pretty much the one thing that is a given. At least Pearson is [itrying[/i to improve things and actually spending some money on infrastructure and youth. He may have fallen short of his ambitions but at least he [ihas[/i ambitions.'"
Yet we acheived far more and also had a better team and played better rugby with her at the helm. Its only under Agash that things started going really wrong. This isnt me saying shes better than Pearson but Pearson has made some right feckin hash ups in his tenure and still continues to do so. Hes not the messiah some think he is
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| Quote: Sebasteeno "Yet we acheived far more and also had a better team and played better rugby with her at the helm. Its only under Agash that things started going really wrong. This isnt me saying shes better than Pearson but Pearson has made some right feckin hash ups in his tenure and still continues to do so. Hes not the messiah some think he is'"
Which was under her stewardship, and the first thing Pearson acted upon to put right. It's not really fair to just pick out the peak years for comparison as if they were the norm for the duration, we had around 2003-2007 of good stuff, but 2008-2011 were where we really went down the pan and the previous setup did little to nothing to halt the slide. Pearson is 4 years in during very difficult circumstances, the last lot had over a decade so it's no surprise you can easily point to a more successful period within that. Whilst crediting them for that good period, you've also got to acknowledge that the subsequent mess was of their making and undid all those years (on the pitch, I mean) by failing to address it.
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| Quote: carl_spackler "Which was under her stewardship, and the first thing Pearson acted upon to put right. It's not really fair to just pick out the peak years for comparison as if they were the norm for the duration, we had around 2003-2007 of good stuff, but 2008-2011 were where we really went down the pan and the previous setup did little to nothing to halt the slide. Pearson is 4 years in during very difficult circumstances, the last lot had over a decade so it's no surprise you can easily point to a more successful period within that. Whilst crediting them for that good period, you've also got to acknowledge that the subsequent mess was of their making and undid all those years (on the pitch, I mean) by failing to address it.'"
As much as I'm in a completely downbeat mood about the club at the minute, I'd also add that I feel this years Super League is about as competitive as it has ever been, with the drop to 12 teams. Even though I don't feel the top teams are quite as good as they were say 10 years ago, the overall competitiveness is better. There are no easy wins anymore, if you have an off day you get punished.
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| Quote: Sebasteeno "Yet we acheived far more and also had a better team and played better rugby with her at the helm. Its only under Agash that things started going really wrong. This isnt me saying shes better than Pearson but Pearson has made some right feckin hash ups in his tenure and still continues to do so. Hes not the messiah some think he is'"
Agree, he's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy.
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| Dear oh dear.
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| kath rode the wave that richardson created in the early years
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| Id rather have a sexual relationship with gary hetherington than have that cow back at fc, her and rule was an utter disgrace at our club, and should be put in there box forever, under lock and key, then it should be dispatched into the humber when the tides going out
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| Quote: berro's best mate "Id rather have a sexual relationship with gary hetherington than have that cow back at fc, her and rule was an utter disgrace at our club, and should be put in there box forever, under lock and key, then it should be dispatched into the humber when the tides going out'"
Exactly what did Rule do wrong apart from follow orders from the owners to hush up the situation that eventually led to his demise?
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Exactly what did Rule do wrong apart from follow orders from the owners to hush up the situation that eventually led to his demise?'"
Let us play an unregistered player in the cup?
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| Quote: hokeydokey "my opinion is expectations since the Cup win has built up and lack of success has heaped more pressure on players that why teams like Castleford have played without fear and express themselves better because nobody even the fans expected anything.The same can be said about Wakfield always come here play well because there is no pressure.'"
That was 10 years ago! We're a shadow of that cup winning team. Not sure how expectations are on a team who with the exception of Yeaman never took to the field that day?
We're not good enough in almost every department both on and off the pitch. Whilst AP promises a lot, he's still failed to hit the mark he set when buying the club
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Exactly what did Rule do wrong apart from follow orders from the owners to hush up the situation that eventually led to his demise?'"
2 breaches of salary cap, an unregistered player and the Drugs scandal
Thats a start
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| Quote: frepneyboy "2 breaches of salary cap, an unregistered player and the Drugs scandal
Thats a start'"
and .. the Stuart Reardon affair...
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| Quote: frepneyboy "2 breaches of salary cap, an unregistered player and the Drugs scandal
Thats a start'" Dave Plummer was the chief exec in 2003, convenient of you to forget, and also the rules at the time meant the interpretation of the salary cap rules effected quite a few clubs..we appealed against it on that basis..something else you fail to recognise.
The 2005 'breach' was extremely minor and got us a slapped wrist of £2500
Yes the drugs scandal was bad but do you not think that Rule was the fall guy here? I'd have him back in a heartbeat as I would Peter Sharp or Gentle.
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Dave Plummer was the chief exec in 2003, convenient of you to forget, and also the rules at the time meant the interpretation of the salary cap rules effected quite a few clubs..we appealed against it on that basis..something else you fail to recognise.
The 2005 'breach' was extremely minor and got us a slapped wrist of £2500
Yes the drugs scandal was bad but do you not think that Rule was the fall guy here? I'd have him back in a heartbeat as I would Peter Sharp or Gentle.'"
But it was still a cap breach, and after another one just two years before, we were probably lucky to get away so lightly.
If Rule was the fall guy over the drugs issue, why did he effectively fess up?
"Mr. Rule did not contest the charge made against him by UK Anti-Doping"
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| Quote: Chris28 "But it was still a cap breach, and after another one just two years before, we were probably lucky to get away so lightly.
If Rule was the fall guy over the drugs issue, why did he effectively fess up?
"Mr. Rule did not contest the charge made against him by UK Anti-Doping"'"
The cap breach was nothing - IIRC it was a technicality which is why we got off so lightly.
The drugs issue was something else again. I don't care how much pressure he may or may not have been under from the owners he should not have made the decisions that he did. The 'fall-guy' excuse doesn't wash.
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