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| Quote: kt170496 "G Hall is that good at defending I could run over him and I am nearly seventy I will give him a chance and just jog up to him'"
To be fair mate although Hall may not be the smartest of players defensively at SL level, if you ran at him he would smash you.
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "No Kosh nothing bollox about it!! my statement was around his defence and you know it! but you choose to be picky and pedantic...I have watched Craig Hall for just about every match he has played for Hull FC, he can score a try but I have never fawned over him because I do not rated him highly, and I have been proved right.....let us move on!'"
You said he lets in more tries than he scores. That isn't true. If you didn't mean it then you shouldn't have said it. Simples.
As for 'fawning' over players, I'll leave you to do that with Yeaman and Turner.
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| Quote: raynor the crab "To be fair mate although Hall may not be the smartest of players defensively at SL level, if you ran at him he would smash you.'" I know different
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| I know it's hypocritical of me to say this after being the opposite of a Craig Hall cheerleader over the last 3 seasons, but I don't really see the point of this thread. He's going, and we assume it's because the club (and most of its supporters, for what that's worth) don't think he'll make a top class SL centre in the future in the same way they believe that Tom Briscoe and (probably to a lesser extent) Jordan Turner will. Great body swerve, good pace and unpredictable in attack, but a bit flaky in defence and prone to brain f@rts. Is there any more to say? I'm thinking we need a thread on Agar or the music we run out to, just to mix it up a bit.
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If you can not say any thing nice don't say nothing at all
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It's Rough It's Tough It's Rugby League R Whiting Best Thing Since Slice Bread Better make That Second GRANDDAUGHTER IS NUMBER ONE ..1959/65 1Battalion Prince Of Wales Own Regiment Of Yorkshire ..Gibraltar/Libya/Wuppertal/Berlin FROM 1959 TILL 1965 I WAS TAUGHT HOW TO KILL FROM MONDAY TO SATURDAYS BUT ON SUNDAYS THE PARSON TOLD US NOT KILL When I asked Who is right I was told "don't be clever Soldier just do has you are told " "Ich bin ein Berliner I was there when those words where spoken " part of history " "SMILE and make the WORLD a better place ":disney1/Dis75.gif |
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "I know it's hypocritical of me to say this after being the opposite of a Craig Hall cheerleader over the last 3 seasons, but I don't really see the point of this thread. He's going, and we assume it's because the club (and most of its supporters, for what that's worth) don't think he'll make a top class SL centre in the future in the same way they believe that Tom Briscoe and (probably to a lesser extent) Jordan Turner will. Great body swerve, good pace and unpredictable in attack, but a bit flaky in defence and prone to brain f@rts. Is there any more to say? I'm thinking we need a thread on Agar or the music we run out to, just to mix it up a bit.'" Eye of the Tiger
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| Quote: dundeeblackandwhite "Hardly a bollox statement.. numbers may be slightly out, but think you are being a bit picky at BB's opinion.
Imo she made a more than fair point. Hall has had his chance time and time again and if he hasn't improved his biggest problems ie tackling, positioning etc then he never will.. we have lost a lot of points down to him, and although I wish him luck wherever he goes, I prefer to have him defending against us than for us..'"
his biggest problem is poisitioning and tackling but don't forget his bigger problem of try and point scoring much more than some players at our club!!
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| Quote: Kosh "You said he lets in more tries than he scores. That isn't true. If you didn't mean it then you shouldn't have said it. Simples.
As for 'fawning' over players, I'll leave you to do that with Yeaman and Turner.'"
Wrong...I only fawn over manu
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| Quote: kt170496 "Eye of the Tiger
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "I know it's hypocritical of me to say this after being the opposite of a Craig Hall cheerleader over the last 3 seasons, but I don't really see the point of this thread. He's going, and we assume it's because the club (and most of its supporters, for what that's worth) don't think he'll make a top class SL centre in the future in the same way they believe that Tom Briscoe and (probably to a lesser extent) Jordan Turner will. Great body swerve, good pace and unpredictable in attack, but a bit flaky in defence and prone to brain f@rts. Is there any more to say? I'm thinking we need a thread on Agar or the music we run out to, just to mix it up a bit.'"
if you don't see the point of this thread why have you probably made the most comments on it? in all fairness it is a pointless thread as the lad has been let go and personally im glad as this club hav'nt helped him much just like a lot of players they have released past couple of years
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| Quote: bigcjlchris "if you don't see the point of this thread why have you probably made the most comments on it? in all fairness it is a pointless thread as the lad has been let go and personally im glad as this club hav'nt helped him much just like a lot of players they have released past couple of years'"
None have gone on to set the world alight though have they....the simple fact remains these players are not good enough to feature in the team, it is not personal, Craig is a nice lad and I have no doubt every-one like myself wishes him all the best for the future.
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| This is Hull fc its not Man utd or barcelona for fecks sake.
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| Quote: bigcjlchris "This is Hull fc its not Man utd or barcelona for fecks sake.'"
We will leave it there I think!
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| Quote: dundeeblackandwhite "Hardly a bollox statement.. numbers may be slightly out, but think you are being a bit picky at BB's opinion.
Imo she made a more than fair point. Hall has had his chance time and time again and if he hasn't improved his biggest problems ie tackling, positioning etc then he never will.. we have lost a lot of points down to him, and although I wish him luck wherever he goes, I prefer to have him defending against us than for us..'"
Missed this one...
First off, BB is more than capable of defending herself - we've been having variations on this conversation all season.
Second off - the numbers are more than a little out. People forget that up until this season Hall had the best try return per game played of any of our players. He's scored a lot of points for us and not been directly responsible for letting in anywhere near the same number. The statement was pure fabrication to make a point that really doesn't need the over-emphasis.
Lastly - while it cannot be argued that Hall's defence is a weakness, this season he has been exposed by playing on the right wing where our flank defence has been pitiful no matter who plays there. Whiting let Meli score four past him in one game for instance, and we're still shipping points out wide even with Briscoe in place.
I genuinely think that Hall has been unlucky during his time here. Due to circumstances he has been played largely as a utility back, which he clearly isn't. This has served to accentuate his flaws while hiding some of his strengths. This season in particular he's had his defensive frailties cruelly exposed due to our abysmal sliding defence, and I think he has then been trying too hard to compensate in attack which has led to him making mistakes there as well.
Anyway - he's going now and I can't help but think it's the best option for him. His style of play doesn't fit in with the way we operate and a change of club could be what he needs to move on with his game. Playing in a side that has a better defensive structure out wide and plays more expansive rugby would suit him down to the ground. I'll be following his progress with interest.
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| Quote: Kosh "Missed this one...
First off, BB is more than capable of defending herself - we've been having variations on this conversation all season.
The upshot of it is mate is that he has failed to take numerous chances to establish himself in the squad because overall his level of performance has not met the standard. Had he been good enough 60+ appearances would have enabled him to cement his place but alas he has not. There's lot's of mitigating stuff some of which you list but top quality players are not usually allowed to leave clubs except maybe for financial reasons. If Wigan Saints Leeds or Wire sign him then fair play to him he has improved his lot and maybe he will shine. I suspect however that due to his ability and track record of overall performance the top SL clubs will not be in for him and that says much IMO.
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