What are all of the 'surrounding circumstances in this instance"

Are they saying that it was kind of justified as Hicks is 5hit?

Bent.

Things like this what make me feel like walking away from the sport. Absolute joke. Screaming in refs face twice is fine as long as you turn up to the disciplinary and say sorry ( or more likely remind them who you play for ). You could not make this sh@t up of how often this happens.

Weren't Motu and Hudgell meant to be on the review panel, I seem to recall an article in the HDM a while ago?

Not sure but would love motu to speak up before he leaves. Would be perfect timing as he can't kop a fine. Displinary panel has gradually got worse to the point of ridiculous now. You would struggle to find a fan of any team which couldn't give you at least 3 examples of inconsistency were bans/gradings areally concerned. Regards to maguire the fact he got a game when it should of been 2 with his epg just because he showed his face shows what a joke it is. What about all the kids who watched his actions on Friday night thinking it's o.k to abuse the ref. And we wonder why we struggle for quality refs. Hardly a appealing job on Fridays viewing

Quote: PCollinson1990 "Weren't Motu and Hudgell meant to be on the review panel, I seem to recall an article in the HDM a while ago?'" Due to report mid 2017, so that's within the next 2 days. Google finds the HDM article, but the link no longer works, as the HDM have moved to a picture based "newspaper" as that's what their readers want apparently. Here's another article.... www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/149 ... or_change/

Quote: PCollinson1990 "Weren't Motu and Hudgell meant to be on the review panel, I seem to recall an article in the HDM a while ago?'" Due to report mid 2017, so that's within the next 2 days. Google finds the HDM article, but the link no longer works, as the HDM have moved to a picture based "newspaper" as that's what their readers want apparently. Here's another article.... www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/149 ... or_change/

I don't know, you would struggle to find any whino's fans who are prepared to highlight any inconsistencies as they are overwhelmingly in their favour. Even the long bans handed to Ferres and Singleton this season were at the bottom end for what were blatant, gruesome and inexcusable attempts to cripple an opponent. And Wigan, with their fierce commitment to foul and dangerous play, get away with a lot less than they deserve - lots of mentions, very little further action and a special lifetime get of of jail free card for SOL.

i watched the leeds v cas highlights. Mcguire is binned for his first rant, then on at least 2 other occasions you can clearly see him gobbing off again to the ref. RL is heading in the football direction when it comes to backchat. It needs stamping out. Reducing a likely 3 game ban to 1 game is not sending out the right messages, especially when the culprit has form in that area.

And we need to see more 10m marching down the pitch for this kind of offence as well - its seems to be dying out

Agreed on both, also "professional" (cynical) fouls go without punishment (and I include FC in that on occasion)

That JJB got a one match ban for his deliberate attack to the head which IMO was incorrectly cited just shows you what utter bollox the disciplinary is.
Maguire swearing at the ref the way he did and continued to be threatening is massively worse than contact with a referee which are by and large purely accidental yet get worse.
THIS is the problem with the game, the refs/officials make a rod for their own back by weak/poor officiating and not sticking to the laws of the game.
Making the players and coaches adjust their behaviour and not weakening your stance on the rules is the only way to tighten up the game and make it cleaner and a better spectacle.

Ablett should have been marched 10 in the game last night too after gobbing off. The refs should use the powers they have and it would cut out that sort of nonsense. Players of all clubs have got away with mouthing off for too long. It seems that it's only a problem if you swear.

So if "all the circumstances" as quoted above, are so significant that they effectively reduce the length of a ban, then surely, should the said evidence not be shared ?..... as it is clearly important and sets a legal precedent within the laws v punishments of the disciplinary findings.

Such test cases should definitely be documented for all Clubs to see (and perhaps they are ?) but it would be nice for us the fans to see the transcript and be as wise as the Disciplinary Committee as to what exact "surrounding circumstances" are those which can allow a downgrade in a punishment.

Nothing is ever transparent with this group of "fine upstanding persons".
Why can't they just be open and honest with ALL ??
Its always smoke and mirrors, rules torn up and changed to suit as required.
It is so disheartening to see that our game is run by people with such a low moral and ethical compass.

It is all well documented in this link, which has been referenced many times before.......


I think if you read the full submissions, you'll fail to understand why they reduced the penalties.

For example, in Percival's case, part of the "reasons for the decision" says

Quote: Uppo58 "The player did not immediately apologise to the Official and this is a concern.'"

and then follows it up by saying...

Quote: Uppo58 "In the players favour he has accepted his guilt, shown considerable remorse and apologised to the Official.'"