They did, most fans seemed in agreement that we needed a change just before he left. He was really well liked but we needed some fresh impetus at the time.

even so I'd still say our 2007 squad that finished 4th was stronger. This team has done nothing for 2 years, and is floundering already this season and we haven't even passed easter yet.

I think the feeling under the last days of Mcrae was that he was a 'nearly' man, he built a good team, promoted some good youngsters etc..but in the big games we'd underwhelm.

I would take him back now though!

If we'd be able to field a decent team for the back end of that 2004 season I'm convinced we'd have at least come close to winning the comp.

That 2004 team played some great rugby but Shaun McCrae is definitely not the answer to our problems. I really think we need to get a reality check we're 8 games in with a host of new signings, lets give Agar a break and judge him and the team over a decent spell of games. I agree with loads of the posts about how rubbish and disappointing we've been esp at Crusaders and Salford but two wins over Easter (big ask I appreciate) and we'll be firmly back on course for top 4 finish. Lets give Agar at least half a season!

And as I pointed out on your Diary Thread and got totally misunderstood by one person!! Do not underestimate a team sent out by Himself - we had some great moments under him even though we did not win a thing but not many teams have over the Super League era. My memories of Richie Barnett, Colin Best, Steve Prescott and of course the great man Jason Smith will live a long time.

technically it was only better in 10 of the 13 positions as 3 were the same players!

I would possibly put Tickle in for Chessie there. Chessie was a good player but missed a stack of games in his Hull career, whereas Tickle is also a good player, rarely misses more than 5 minutes a game and is one of the best kickers in the league.

Chester was far better than Tickle imo, but then i guess Chester did have Cooke to put him through huge gaps every game.

Maybe not far better, but I think he was a better allround player

But as Staffs says says missed a lot of games with injuries, so we didnt see him enough.

So in summary most people think Richard Horne is talking complete b0ll0x then?