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| Quote Rock God X Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:25 pm Post subject:
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To an extent you're right, but Tom Briscoe hasn't had a fraction of the crap directed at him that Calderwood has. Given that his defensive lapses have let in far more tries than Calderwood's have, I fail to see why this should be.
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Maybe people don't know what they are talking about and just jump on the bandwagon that slags off players willy nilly!
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| Seems to be settling in nicely and showing some good form, I am pleased with this signing.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Seems to be settling in nicely and showing some good form, I am pleased with this signing.'"
I was pleased with it when it was announced and still am. Given the ball he will score tries.
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| I never understand why people on here slag off Calderwood, Sing or Blacklock. If they had played outside a top quality centre and being used to there strengths they'd all get 20+ tries a season for us.
People who slag these wingers are just looking for scapegoats.
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| Some of the stick he gets in the stands is shocking. Even Yeaman gets some stick, and Tommy Lee still does. These are three of the only players I have seen this season who have never stopped trying whether they have had bad games or not. Why don't the likes of Tickle, R.Horne and Berrigan get stick? These three have offered bugger all and dson't even seem to be trying for at least the past 6 games (Berrigan nothing all season for me, with Tickle only showing up at Celtic. Horne obviously fantastic for the first 4 games).
It's the top players at this club who generally need to be getting stick, along with Thorman plus Agar and his coaching set up. Thorman is doing naff all, he is even worse than what he was during his spell at fullback for Hudds. And the gameplan, motivation, tackling technique etc is awful and something Agar and his coaching set up need to sort out, or go (the latter been my pre-ferred option). Jon Sharp was meant to be improving our defence this season. What a joke yesterdays attempts at tackling were, and we have been very poor and inconsistant in this area in all but two games this season (Wigan and Catalans)
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| Quote ="Rock God X"To an extent you're right, but Tom Briscoe hasn't had a fraction of the crap directed at him that Calderwood has. Given that his defensive lapses have let in far more tries than Calderwood's have, I fail to see why this should be.'"
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| Quote ="airliebird9"Briscoe's a young local lad and Calderwood's an ex-Rhino of course
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Briscoe is from Featherstone and Calderwood is from Leeds?
Anyhow quite surprised to see this thread as i've felt like the only person thats seen any positives from him.
Someone mentioned earlier play him to his positives. Absolutely spot on.
His enthusiasm really can't be questioned the bloke is all over the park looking for work. Sooner or later we'll twig on to exactly what sort of a pain he can be to opposition teams and use him to his full potential.
The only criticism I have of him is his running from dummy half and even that I guess is a call from the coaches. He's a speed merchant not a power merchant and never going to bust tackles hence his dying with the ball on contact.
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| Quote ="KNOCK OFF NIGEL"Briscoe is from Featherstone and Calderwood is from Leeds?
Anyhow quite surprised to see this thread as i've felt like the only person thats seen any positives from him.
Someone mentioned earlier play him to his positives. Absolutely spot on.
His enthusiasm really can't be questioned the bloke is all over the park looking for work. Sooner or later we'll twig on to exactly what sort of a pain he can be to opposition teams and use him to his full potential.
The only criticism I have of him is his running from dummy half and even that I guess is a call from the coaches. He's a speed merchant not a power merchant and never going to bust tackles hence his dying with the ball on contact.'"
I doubt that tbh as we didnt seem to use Blacklock and Sing to their strengths and I don't see any of that changing at the moment.
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| Quote ="Chris28"Right Wing Syndrome'"
You mean racism?
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| lets just hope the boo boys get off his back and get behind him on friday night then... his new bit of form has come after we had a little chat at the rl factor last monday me thinks. .
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| Quote ="legohead"lets just hope the boo boys get off his back and get behind him on friday night then... his new bit of form has come after we had a little chat at the rl factor last monday me thinks.
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and you just a child's plastic toy? Are you sure it wan't Megablocks B0ll0cks who turned things around?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Seems to be settling in nicely and showing some good form, I am pleased with this signing.'" would you put him over briscoe? i know agar will but i wouldnt
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| Quote ="joetwizzy"would you put him over briscoe? i know agar will but i wouldnt'"
Course he will be in over Briscoe....he is one for the future and will cover the backs when needed.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"I never understand why people on here slag off Calderwood, Sing or Blacklock. If they had played outside a top quality centre and being used to there strengths they'd all get 20+ tries a season for us.
People who slag these wingers are just looking for scapegoats.'"
I hate to say it, but spot on Pete -
People constently slag Claderwood off but of course we play such expansive rugby and utilise our wing so much don't we
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Course he will be in over Briscoe....he is one for the future and will cover the backs when needed.'" i know he WILL BE.. but he doesnt deserve it.. first good game of the season imo
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| Quote ="KNOCK OFF NIGEL"
The only criticism I have of him is his running from dummy half and even that I guess is a call from the coaches. He's a speed merchant not a power merchant and never going to bust tackles hence his dying with the ball on contact.'"
Which would Calderwood or any other winger rather do?
come inside and scoot the ball against a pack from a standing start or being slipped a pass so he gets a nice piece of space to run into against his opposite winger?
no brainer for me but hes only looking to get his hands on the ball from this harder option.
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| Quote ="joetwizzy"i know he WILL BE.. but he doesnt deserve it.. first good game of the season imo'"
Briscoe hasn't done anything of note since the first couple of games. Calderwood has been much more noticable than Briscoe, in a positive way
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| Quote ="The Key"Briscoe hasn't done anything of note since the first couple of games. Calderwood has been much more noticable than Briscoe, in a positive way'" dont agree.. game against saints he looked good apart from that he looked very ordinary to poor. Briscoe looks very strong and has alot more flair in attack
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| Quote ="joetwizzy"dont agree.. game against saints he looked good apart from that he looked very ordinary to poor. Briscoe looks very strong and has alot more flair in attack'"
Calderwood tries much harder than Briscoe, takes the ball up more, tackles better and with more passion. He looks to do more work than Briscoe. To say that Calderwood has been poor is laughable. He has barely had a good ball and the only time he gets to chase a ball now is on the last tackle and the winger has usually dropped back anyway. The only time Calderwood ha slooked poor is when a high bomb is put up to him.
Briscoe started well, he looked strong and wanted to get involved. Now I feel he looks average in defence, doesn't look to get involved as much and is less effective. He too though has been hindered by a lack of good ball although he gets more than Calderwood. I certainly havent seen this supposed 'flair' though.
Briscoe will be a star, but I really think that he isn't criticised due to his age, whereas Calderwood is criticised because alot of people didn't like him before he came here and he is expected to be superman basically
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| Was his best game in a Hull shirt although tbh i dont think hes done that bad i mean he hasnt had any service at all
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| Quote ="Rock God X"To an extent you're right, but Tom Briscoe hasn't had a fraction of the crap directed at him that Calderwood has. Given that his defensive lapses have let in far more tries than Calderwood's have, I fail to see why this should be.'"
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| funny how all the calderwood lovers come out after he has a good game.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"I never understand why people on here slag off Calderwood, Sing or Blacklock. If they had played outside a top quality centre and being used to there strengths they'd all get 20+ tries a season for us.
People who slag these wingers are just looking for scapegoats.'"
The crazy thing is, Blacklock did get 20 tries a seaosn for us yet there were some who expected him to be able to cover three man overlaps.
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| Quote ="joetwizzy"funny how all the calderwood lovers come out after he has a good game.'"
Funny how I have been saying the same thing about Calderwood all season after most games (in fact I think I have commmented on it to whoever I have eben to rugby with after every game )
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| Quote ="The Key"Funny how I have been saying the same thing about Calderwood all season after most games (in fact I think I have commmented on it to whoever I have eben to rugby with after every game
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I'm sure the person you go to rugby with will be pleased you can't remember them...
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