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| HDM reporting Abdul has signed.
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| Was myler at wire when smith was coach? Maybe didn't get on or maybe myler didn't like his style
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| I have to say the current signings are really uninspiring for me.
Abdul
Briscoe
Holmes
Hardaker
Borough
A really poor bunch for me, especially on 2 or 3 year deals. We're really saying another 2 or wp3 seasons in the bottom half of the tablemis where we will be. Only asiata really likely to make a difference.
I have to say that unless the overseas recruitment is top notch, which is probably unlikely if we've filled our quota spots, I probably won't renew my pass and just go If we start to play well.
Adding those players to our squad still looks like a bottom 4 side to me
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "I have to say the current signings are really uninspiring for me.
Abdul
Briscoe
Holmes
Hardaker
Borough
A really poor bunch for me, especially on 2 or 3 year deals. We're really saying another 2 or wp3 seasons in the bottom half of the tablemis where we will be. Only asiata really likely to make a difference.
I have to say that unless the overseas recruitment is top notch, which is probably unlikely if we've filled our quota spots, I probably won't renew my pass and just go If we start to play well.
Adding those players to our squad still looks like a bottom 4 side to me'"
In fairness though, maybe 9th, winning roughly 10 games, would represent significant progress vs the clown car cataclysm of 2024. In one sense it’d be back to mucky kebab square one but you’ll be coming at it from the other direction, not dreaming of steak, just glad that it’s not workhouse gruel for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Given the first leg of the journey is going to be tough much of the time, I’d say your recruitment is going as well as Hull fans might reasonably have hoped so far. If you get 18+ games from Abdull, he’ll make a huge difference.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "In fairness though, maybe 9th, winning roughly 10 games, would represent significant progress vs the clown car cataclysm of 2024. In one sense it’d be back to mucky kebab square one but you’ll be coming at it from the other direction, not dreaming of steak, just glad that it’s not workhouse gruel for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Given the first leg of the journey is going to be tough much of the time, I’d say your recruitment is going as well as Hull fans might reasonably have hoped so far. If you get 18+ games from Abdull, he’ll make a huge difference.'"
If they were on 12 month contracts I'd see the sense but 2 and 3 years? What sort of state will abdul be in 3 years hence? How many time will hardaker have been arrested by 2026?
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| It's all got a bit of a feel of the rebuild Daryl Powell attempted at Wire about it
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| I think the players rumoured to have signed improve the squad, we shall see what happens. I cant imagine we have people going round the block to sign for us, its a stepping stone for us to get better. We shall see, hopefully Cartwright can get deliver what he says and gets the place to winning more then losing or at least being in a game for much longer.
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "If they were on 12 month contracts I'd see the sense but 2 and 3 years? What sort of state will abdul be in 3 years hence? How many time will hardaker have been arrested by 2026?'"
Players aren't going to sign on one year deals if they have other offers, all are better than what we have. I'd be happy with 6th to 8th next season, probably more like 8th, but at least challenging for 6th throughout the season.
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| I think people are underestimating how good Abdull is. There are obviously question marks over his fitness, both in terms of his size and his injuries (which probably go hand in hand to some extent). But playing ability wise he is streets ahead of what we've got now. He's a risk, but worst case scenario is you've got a talented player who misses a few too many games, but doesn't carry much of a cap hit. Best case is that Cartwright makes a breakthrough with his fitness and attitude and you get a player who can dominate games on a regular basis. Admittedly the former is more likely, but I'm ok with that risk.
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| Quote: Steve0 "It's all got a bit of a feel of the rebuild Daryl Powell attempted at Wire about it'"
with not a lot of thought or ambition
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| Quote: pmarrow "I think the players rumoured to have signed improve the squad, we shall see what happens. I cant imagine we have people going round the block to sign for us, its a stepping stone for us to get better. We shall see, hopefully Cartwright can get deliver what he says and gets the place to winning more then losing or at least being in a game for much longer.'"
Dont think Cartwright has had any imput on any of those signings
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "I have to say the current signings are really uninspiring for me.
Abdul
Briscoe
Holmes
Hardaker
Borough
A really poor bunch for me, especially on 2 or 3 year deals. We're really saying another 2 or wp3 seasons in the bottom half of the tablemis where we will be. Only asiata really likely to make a difference.
I have to say that unless the overseas recruitment is top notch, which is probably unlikely if we've filled our quota spots, I probably won't renew my pass and just go If we start to play well.
Adding those players to our squad still looks like a bottom 4 side to me'"
Let’s be honest these signings represent no better quality then the type of signings we’ve made in the years between 2018-2023, it’s bargain basement shopping of what’s available on a low budget. The stupidly long length of the contracts we are handing out for these players that nobody else would indicates that we are still struggling to compete financially. I’ll exclude 2024 from that as this seasons recruitment has to stand alone as the worst in the history of the sport, it will be better than that but hardly a high bar.
To be fair, Pearson did say that any investment will help add a couple of quality players to a squad of workman like players but that won’t be sorted until the end of the year. Maybe it will be sorted in time to add a bit of quality come season ticket renewal time? I still think we’ll be restricted by quota places, but hopefully Cartwright seems as better placed as anyone in the game to come up with a couple of gems.
I really hope we can come up with something exciting at season ticket time as we need it. I don’t think you can underestimate the damage that going a full season winning only 2 points against a part time outfit amongst years of dreadful home form is going to do to this club. 5K home crowds in a 25K stadium is going to make for a terrible atmosphere next season. Serving up some decent rugby with exciting players is the only way to start building again.
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| Quote: bonaire "Dont think Cartwright has had any imput on any of those signings[/I bet he has. There’s a lot of things to consider- who’s available, cost, who’s leaving, duration of contract, fitness record, attitude etc I think of it as rolling stock. There are few that stay around for 450 games. New players will be looked at all the time. But I think the nucleus has to be consistent for there to be success. The spine and forwards ought to be regular names on the team sheet to win games. That said it’s a squad game with a scattering of young lads getting opportunities. I guess it illustrates that success is piecing a jigsaw together then watching someone pinch some pieces then having to find new ones that fit
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| Quote: DSJ1983 "Let’s be honest these signings represent no better quality then the type of signings we’ve made in the years between 2018-2023, it’s bargain basement shopping of what’s available on a low budget. The stupidly long length of the contracts we are handing out for these players that nobody else would indicates that Quote: DSJ1983 "we '" are still struggling to compete financially. I’ll exclude 2024 from that as this seasons recruitment has to stand alone as the worst in the history of the sport, it will be better than that but hardly a high bar.
To be fair, Pearson did say that any investment will help add a couple of quality players to a squad of workman like players but that won’t be sorted until the end of the year. Maybe it will be sorted in time to add a bit of quality come season ticket renewal time? I still think we’ll be restricted by quota places, but hopefully Cartwright seems as better placed as anyone in the game to come up with a couple of gems.
I really hope we can come up with something exciting at season ticket time as we need it. I don’t think you can underestimate the damage that going a full season winning only 2 points against a part time outfit amongst years of dreadful home form is going to do to this club. 5K home crowds in a 25K stadium is going to make for a terrible atmosphere next season. Serving up some decent rugby with exciting players is the only way to start building again.'"
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