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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Hardly likely to with massive accumulated losses and no assets. I would have thought they'd have tought you stuff like that in accountancy school'"
So why the huge shift in the last year? In your own time...
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Who's painting a rosy picture? I just don;t believe things are as bad as is being made out and for the fact based reasons I've posted. You can counter with your guesses and supposition all you want but we've disagreed on things before and I'm invariably proven right in the end.
As for binning agar, yes it was the right decision, as was appointing a better coach who took us forward. Where he got it wrong was in sacking that coach and then appointing an inferior one. Big mistake which has and will continue to cost him plenty of cash'"
Not for much longer if credit trajectory continues. Cash is king..
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "So why the huge shift in the last year? In your own time...'"
Maybe it's down to pearson's constant bleating about being skint.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Not for much longer if credit trajectory continues. Cash is king..'"
What's our cash position and how are our lines of credit? How much cash is pearson sat on personally? Factual answers only, no guesses please. In your own time
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Maybe it's down to pearson's constant bleating about being skint.'"
Of course. That's the criteria external credit rating agencies use to support risk ratings.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Of course. That's the criteria external credit rating agencies use to support risk ratings.'"
No way? I was joking as well
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "No way? I was joking as well'"
Clearly. Creditors of £2.2m and £9k cash in the bank is hilarious.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Clearly. Creditors of £2.2m and £9k cash in the bank is hilarious.'"
Who are the creditors? Is a big chunk of them season pass sales? Got anywhere with those other questions yet?
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Who are the creditors? Is a big chunk of them season pass sales? Got anywhere with those other questions yet?'"
There is no detailed information on the creditors are, as you well know. I've posted the cash position. Why would I have access to AP's bank account? That's just crazy. Look, you've clearly stated that the financial position is OK and not materially different now to what it was a year ago. 2015 accounts won't be filed until next summer. Current credit ratings of the club's financial position and their change over the last year support my interpretation over yours. Get that Radford wheelie bin avatar going. Play to your strengths.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "The club has lost £1.5m since 2010.
The user agreement is becoming increasingly challenging.
Average gates in 2010 were 14,000, so are down around 30%with commensurate reductions in sponsorship.
Call it bleating if you like, but don't imply there's no financial difficulty here, or claim you weren't given notice of it.'"
Why is the user agreement "becoming increasingly challenging"
It hasnt changed, we pay a set fee for the stadium up to 7500 (approx) people per game then after that we give half of ticket income to the SMC.
I said years ago the agreement was a mill stone to the club, loads had a pop at me saying how it was watertight and safeguarded our club "if times got hard"
Again no figures from AP, but we know in Kaths last year the club was pulling in £5mill pa, AP even admitted this. Hes not come out with a figure in recent years however.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "
I love this club. I'm not an employee, but I am a passholder, a member of it if you like.
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You didnt choose to buy a pass,
And when Rovers launched their membership scheme 4 years back, plenty on here poked fun at them
and bosh, what do we do....
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "
Of course this is of Pearson's making, or at least via poor choices he's had a major impact. Where have I said otherwise. But we can mither about the past or take stock of what we have and decide what we want to do as members of the club. Support it with reservations about its leadership and strategy, or cancel our membership.'"
I'm fed up of the same waffle for the last 8 years, first kath, Rule now AP, all the same waffle.
I dont want to settle for 8th, or even 6th, unlike some, its time to do something
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "It is bleating and it's boring. Neither you or I know what the drop in income is, any more than we know what the drop in costs is over the same period but I do remember you telling us a while back that we only made a small operating loss in 2014. Crowds aren't significantly down since then but we seem to have shed a fair amount of cost in salaries so I'd assume it's reasonable to expect a no dissimilar financial performance for 2015.
Maybe you can give your professional view on the additional savings being made on the academy and the increase in SKY income for 2015 or doesn't your myopia allow you to bring any balance to your posts?'"
Dont worry, scrape a 6th and she'll be cartwheeling
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| Quote: frepneyboy "You didnt choose to buy a pass,
And when Rovers launched their membership scheme 4 years back, plenty on here poked fun at them
and bosh, what do we do....'"
I chose to buy a full pass for someone who'll attend maximum 2 games instead, we've done this about 5 times now. Keep repeating it, I'll keep repeating my response. Bring it.
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| Quote: frepneyboy "Dont worry, scrape a 6th and she'll be cartwheeling'"
What's our entitlement to anything more?
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