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Quote: easthull fc fan "What do you suggest then bud? Replace the lot?'"


My suggestion would be an attack coach to assist Radford,
or a proven Head Coach to replace him?

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Quote: weaver93 "My suggestion would be an attack coach to assist Radford,
or a proven Head Coach to replace him?'"

So who then because we are all full of these changes in mind, but nobody is saying who? & every coach or player we've had has been slagged or made felt aware he's no good for our so called massive club that deserves to win everything on offer, not the fact we are in a healthy competition with other clubs able to spend the same salary, so gone are the days when we say " we should be hammering these" "because we are hull FC"

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Quote: easthull fc fan "So who then because we are all full of these changes in mind, but nobody is saying who? & every coach or player we've had has been slagged or made felt aware he's no good for our so called massive club that deserves to win everything on offer, not the fact we are in a healthy competition with other clubs able to spend the same salary, so gone are the days when we say " we should be hammering these" "because we are hull FC"'"


Wigan,Saints Warrington, Huddersfield all employ an attack coach, but we dont..it shows as our attack is so dire.

Available proven coaches... Elliott,Potter,B Smith,or Griffin (ideally Powell or T Smith but wont happen.)

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Quote: weaver93 "Wigan,Saints Warrington, Huddersfield all employ an attack coach, but we dont..as it shows our attack is dire.

Available proven coaches... Elliott,Potter,B Smith,or Griffin (ideally Powell or T Smith but wont happen.)'"


We should have got long when he was begging for a job, he was a bit up & down at the time, would any of those names come here? Powells fine at Cas, & if you mean warringtons Smith? Would he? The others have had their time overseas.

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Quote: easthull fc fan "We should have got long when he was begging for a job, he was a bit up & down at the time, would any of those names come here? Powells fine at Cas, & if you mean warringtons Smith? Would he? The others have had their time overseas.'"


But why didnt we get an attack coach?, it was so obvious we needed one.

IF Radford left,I personally wouldnt gamble on yet another unproven coach. ,at least the experienced HC's I've stated, can gel a group of players into a team.

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Quote: easthull fc fan "
Quote: easthull fc fan "My suggestion would be an attack coach to assist Radford,
or a proven Head Coach to replace him?'"

So who then because we are all full of these changes in mind, but nobody is saying who? & every coach or player we've had has been slagged or made felt aware he's no good for our so called massive club that deserves to win everything on offer, not the fact we are in a healthy competition with other clubs able to spend the same salary, so gone are the days when we say " we should be hammering these" "because we are hull FC"'"


I don't expect us to win everything or indeed anything. I would settle for being able to watch some enterprising, entertaining rugby, to enjoy the match rather than feeling frustrated and disappointed. I can take a defeat as long as the team give it their all and compete, such as in the home game against Wire this season.

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Quote: weaver93 "But why didnt we get an attack coach?, it was so obvious we needed one.

IF Radford left,I personally wouldnt gamble on yet another unproven coach. ,at least the experienced HC's I've stated, can gel a group of players into a team.'"


We wanted Monaghan but he chose France, why he did I will never know... icon_lol.gif

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I honestly think it's becoming a cost issue - I think Pearson's reaching the bottom of his purse.

Heard a rumour last night that Mally Walker has sold Victoria Plumb. The obvious jump from this to Hull FC was also mooted. Perhaps this is why we appear to be seeing no action from Adam despite the pressure to do so?

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Quote: easthull fc fan "What do you suggest then bud? Replace the lot?'"

No, just the coach. the players are good enough to be in the 8 with a decent coach who can then bring in his own staff and change the squad as he sees fit. Whilst we persist with inadequate coaches we'll never get any better

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Quote: easthull fc fan "So who then because we are all full of these changes in mind, but nobody is saying who? & every coach or player we've had has been slagged or made felt aware he's no good for our so called massive club that deserves to win everything on offer, not the fact we are in a healthy competition with other clubs able to spend the same salary, so gone are the days when we say " we should be hammering these" "because we are hull FC"'"

paul rowley would be a decent shout, otherwise look to oz. I don;t have a clue who is available but it wouldn't be hard to find one better than radford

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Quote: WormInHand "I honestly think it's becoming a cost issue - I think Pearson's reaching the bottom of his purse.

Heard a rumour last night that Mally Walker has sold Victoria Plumb. The obvious jump from this to Hull FC was also mooted. Perhaps this is why we appear to be seeing no action from Adam despite the pressure to do so?'"

He raised a load of finance last year through some american hedge fund or something to fund expansion. Don't think he he has sold it and doubt he'll ever put his money into the club

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Quote: Diogenes "I don't expect us to win everything or indeed anything. I would settle for being able to watch some enterprising, entertaining rugby, to enjoy the match rather than feeling frustrated and disappointed. I can take a defeat as long as the team give it their all and compete, such as in the home game against Wire this season.'"


Let's face it we wanted 2 new halfbacks for 2015, we've got them, we still need them to string some games together with our chosen spine, we have no cover for when this doesn't happen, other teams have other options with either several players who can play in these pivotal roles, or the top teams have the youth players to step in or even be first choice, we or the other clubs that don't have this to fall back on will always be outside the top four, our system is up & running but is going to take time, Rome wasn't built in a day...as the saying goes. The team we have has no players other then Ellis & mini to make us play with the never give up attitude, but slowly it is creeping into the squad, as last night showed to come back, although some will say well it's only Salfords a team.

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Quote: weaver93 "My suggestion would be an attack coach to assist Radford,
or a proven Head Coach to replace him?'"


This would be my option.

What I cannot get my head round is how Wigan and Leeds in particular are able to play such expansive rugby, because I don't believe that comes from Wane or McDermott?
If that is the case, then is has to come from either an 'attacking coach' or the senior players?

Take Leeds, who dictates the play on the pitch - Sinfield all day long for me (in recent years), I wouldn't be surprised if he is directly involved in training in terms of attacking ideas and plays?

So if we haven't got an attacking coach, then surely someone like Pryce could bring a lot to the table in terms of ideas and suggestions? Is he not doing this? Or is he not being allowed too by LR? (my way or the highway).

Cannot expect a lump like Lee Radford to suddenly come up with a master attacking playbook? He wasn't that type of player. The good things FC do are all typical of LR, but good coaches have more in the locker than just getting the team to work hard, they are students of the game, they adapt to change, not afraid to try new things, and listen to advice.

I see none of this at FC.

If you watch all the top teams, particularly when attacking the near the line, the scrum half or stand off is at first or second receiver at the play of the ball EVERY time, demanding the ball, directing the team, calling the shots, making the decisions and ultimately calling the plays?

I don't see that here, most of the time its a final front or second row carry and charge.
So either the players are incapable (not good enough) or being told not too and dare not suggest different?

I think Sneyd and Pryce need more freedom to express themselves and Pryce in particular should be advising LR - maybe his and we are still turd!!

Rant over sorry!

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Quote: Jake the Peg "paul rowley would be a decent shout, otherwise look to oz. I don;t have a clue who is available but it wouldn't be hard to find one better than radford'"


So why didn't he? Honestly ask yourself if AP did what he thought was right for the club? He's no idiot he's a business man & he openly says he loves our club, so I will support what he does for them, not what so called fans think they know how to run a club, & throw out whoever is to blame because over the last year we haven't been called the entertainers.

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Quote: Jimmy Carr "This would be my option.

What I cannot get my head round is how Wigan and Leeds in particular are able to play such expansive rugby, because I don't believe that comes from Wane or McDermott?
If that is the case, then is has to come from either an 'attacking coach' or the senior players?

Take Leeds, who dictates the play on the pitch - Sinfield all day long for me (in recent years), I wouldn't be surprised if he is directly involved in training in terms of attacking ideas and plays?

So if we haven't got an attacking coach, then surely someone like Pryce could bring a lot to the table in terms of ideas and suggestions? Is he not doing this? Or is he not being allowed too by LR? (my way or the highway).

Cannot expect a lump like Lee Radford to suddenly come up with a master attacking playbook? He wasn't that type of player. The good things FC do are all typical of LR, but good coaches have more in the locker than just getting the team to work hard, they are students of the game, they adapt to change, not afraid to try new things, and listen to advice.

I see none of this at FC.

If you watch all the top teams, particularly when attacking the near the line, the scrum half or stand off is at first or second receiver at the play of the ball EVERY time, demanding the ball, directing the team, calling the shots, making the decisions and ultimately calling the plays?

I don't see that here, most of the time its a final front or second row carry and charge.
So either the players are incapable (not good enough) or being told not too and dare not suggest different?

I think Sneyd and Pryce need more freedom to express themselves and Pryce in particular should be advising LR - maybe his and we are still turd!!

Rant over sorry!'"


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