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Quote: Dave K. "Not realistic, would never choose us over Leeds and as you say we wouldn't pay a fee.'"


He should be realistic though, this is how far we have fallen Adam and Clarky want us to believe these sort of signings are out of our reach and we should be happy where we are. Not that long ago we attracted Ellis when every other club wanted him.

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Quote: Cuddleclub "He should be realistic though, this is how far we have fallen Adam and Clarky want us to believe these sort of signings are out of our reach and we should be happy where we are. Not that long ago we attracted Ellis when every other club wanted him.'"

Didn’t Leeds stump up £250,000 for Ackers and Brodie Croft? Didn’t see other clubs offering that sort of money. Ellis didn’t require transfer money, his other option was Leeds and it was quite a coup to sign him.

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Quote: Armavinit "Didn’t Leeds stump up £250,000 for Ackers and Brodie Croft? Didn’t see other clubs offering that sort of money. Ellis didn’t require transfer money, his other option was Leeds and it was quite a coup to sign him.'"


It was rumoured that every club had made Ellis an offer, but we must have delivered a good contract and also at the time we had a new owner investing big in the squad so it felt like a good project for him. How times change.

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Quote: Armavinit "Didn’t Leeds stump up £250,000 for Ackers and Brodie Croft? Didn’t see other clubs offering that sort of money. Ellis didn’t require transfer money, his other option was Leeds and it was quite a coup to sign him.'"


If we were prepared to make Clifford a marquee player, and we're linked with Blore, surely there was money there that we could have used to pay for a transfer fee for Ackers? I imagine Brown and Okunbor are on far less than Blore and Clifford would've been on

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This is why im intrigued at the amount of the covid loan. Youd like to think whatever amount it is that weve paid off will go towards next seasons squad build.

Rumours of 500k. Well if Croft and Ackers cost 250k , i know its not always that straight forward, but surely we invest big next season with no loan to pay, a more favourable tenancy agreement agreed, and the continued backing of fans with season pass sales, corperate sales and sponser deals.

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Quote: mwindass "Had a message saying Pele and Scott are on the bench. Hopefully thats right'"


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Quote: Steve0 "Uncle Tony's reputation in the game is masking a few of his failings currently regarding youth and team discipline, if it were an inexperienced Aussie, we'd be asking for him to go by now'"


I agree with you.He is living off his past success

This is from our penalty machine Jordan Lane
I was quite bad at the weekend. I gave away about three or four penalties or six agains. It's something that I'm working on personally to try and negate from my game. Tony also showed us in our review that we gave away 16 penalties and 10 errors. so we need to eradicate them

Is the penny starting to drop?
The on field indiscipline has got worse since Tinkering Tony has been here yet he has done sweet FA about it.
I just think he his just going through the motions knowing the clubs financial situation

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Quote: hull2524 "Not a bad squad. We have 3 hookers in the there so maybe why Balmforth not in..Again we don't know the ins and outs. But can't see Smith keeping him on if he doesn't rate him. Just could be a fitness thing that's hes not happy with ?'"


Why do fans go on about his fitness?
If he was fit enough to be on the bench two or three weeks ago and do 40 mins plus then he surely can do that now
Think we have to accept that Smith either doesnt like him or rate him as it seems he would rather play a one legged Houghton for 80 minutes

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Quote: Dave K. "We do, but two are going to be playing at halfback, I'd guess Charles will be on the bench and come on firm Houghton and move Brown to 9 or 13 like the London gane, but seems alot of changing when they could just bring on Balmforth.

I'm sure Dan will put something out about it.'"


Thats why they call him tinkering Tony
Like last week at Catalan when Russell went off.
We had three forwards on the bench so rather than move Okunbor to wing,a position he has played he moves Walker to the wing and Hoy to full back which then negated the possibility of moving Hoy into the halves to add more zip which was probably the intention of having him on the bench

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Quote: bonaire "I agree with you.He is living off his past success

This is from our penalty machine Jordan Lane
I was quite bad at the weekend. I gave away about three or four penalties or six agains. It's something that I'm working on personally to try and negate from my game. Tony also showed us in our review that we gave away 16 penalties and 10 errors. so we need to eradicate them

Is the penny starting to drop?
The on field indiscipline has got worse since Tinkering Tony has been here yet he has done sweet FA about it.
I just think he his just going through the motions knowing the clubs financial situation'"


Im hoping when everyones back he starts holding the penalty machines accountable

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Quote: bonaire "I agree with you.He is living off his past success

This is from our penalty machine Jordan Lane
I was quite bad at the weekend. I gave away about three or four penalties or six agains. It's something that I'm working on personally to try and negate from my game. Tony also showed us in our review that we gave away 16 penalties and 10 errors. so we need to eradicate them

Is the penny starting to drop?
The on field indiscipline has got worse since Tinkering Tony has been here yet he has done sweet FA about it.
I just think he his just going through the motions knowing the clubs financial situation'"


Good summary and couldn’t agree more.

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Quote: Rocknrolla69er "This is why im intrigued at the amount of the covid loan. Youd like to think whatever amount it is that weve paid off will go towards next seasons squad build.

Rumours of 500k. Well if Croft and Ackers cost 250k , i know its not always that straight forward, but surely we invest big next season with no loan to pay, a more favourable tenancy agreement agreed, and the continued backing of fans with season pass sales, corperate sales and sponser deals.'"


As thing stand this isnt a given as patience has been tested for far too long since 2018 and we've had too many false dawns/promises and what is for me one of the biggest grumbles is the lack of communication from the club.

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Quote: Chris71 "As thing stand this isnt a given as patience has been tested for far too long since 2018 and we've had too many false dawns/promises and what is for me one of the biggest grumbles is the lack of communication from the club.'"


For me it's a lack of honesty. I know it's maybe not great business to come out and say we're skint, but I'd have a lot more respect for Pearson if he told us we're struggling to pay the big bucks and need to look at ways to reduce the cost of our outgoings (players wages).

I know it might put some people off, but as a pass holder for 20+ years I would then be more inclined to continue with that, knowing the club needs the money to make sure I still have a club to go and watch in another 20 years.

At the moment, I feel like I'm being fobbed off by the powers that be.

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Quote: Rocknrolla69er "This is why im intrigued at the amount of the covid loan. Youd like to think whatever amount it is that weve paid off will go towards next seasons squad build.

Rumours of 500k. Well if Croft and Ackers cost 250k , i know its not always that straight forward, but surely we invest big next season with no loan to pay, a more favourable tenancy agreement agreed, and the continued backing of fans with season pass sales, corperate sales and sponser deals.'"


I don't miss Hethertington & Rule for lots of reasons but one good thing was when the fans were down they'd pull a big signing out the bag to get the tills ringing again. Such as 2009 was awful then Long, O'Meley and Fitzgibbon were announced and hey ho lots of passes sold and everyone waiting for the fixture list to come out. I do appreciate though that less big name players from the NRL will come to SL these days.

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