Even if we discount the years 2018-20, which at best were average, the last four seasons (we can already include 2024 in this as it's clearly not going to get any better anytime soon) rank amongst the worse we have witnessed over the past 50 years.

We haven't been this low for this length of time since the first half of the 1970s, a period generally agreed to have been the lowest we have fallen throughout our entire history. Since 1975 we have had the odd one or two season spells which were a difficult watch, but we usually then recovered to some extent, even if it was only back up to mid-table respectability.

After nigh on 15 years in the wilderness, going nowhere, the club was resuscitated in 1975 when the 'Waudby' board took over and kick-started the club back into life, instigating one of our great periods, giving fans of my generation memories to last a lifetime with heroes to cherish for always.

It's going to take something along similar lines to kickstart us once more, such is the depth of regression that has taken place since 2017, but I have severe doubts that there is a collective out there with the desire and financial capacity to revive our club. A collective with a long-standing affinity with the club and the money to turn this situation around.

As I said earlier, we haven't been this weak for this length of time in a half-century. I'm usually optimistic that even when it's not quite going our way, we will turn the corner at some point and, at the very least, be competitive to the top sides once again, but right now I have genuine fears that we are the next Bradford/Widnes, clubs with glorious pasts which become more faded with each passing year.

I have never felt this low about supporting my club in the 50 years I have been a black & white. The years under Len Casey (86-8icon_cool.gif and David Lloyd (98-99) now feel like mere light-hearted bumps in the road compared to the seemingly ever quickening downward spiral we now find ourselves in.

This has gone way beyond over-heated reactions to yet another catastrophic performance, it increasingly feels like we are in a fight for our very existence. We have being going backwards for seven years now, we are still going backwards today and, unless some drastic changes are made, we will continue going backwards until we fall into the abyss.

Now, if you will excuse me, I'm off to pour myself a goblet of hemlock and cyanide!!

Just have half a bottle whisky and a jam sandwich, tomorrow, it would be a lot less messy and if it makes you spew, a lot easier to clean up IAKOW.

Me too and again that kind of thing just drives the knife further in to us fans, absolute shocking performance and worse in a lot of ways than under the inexperienced Hodgson so what do the club, its owner and CEO do, go silent and hide but put out a very crass email to push merchandise. If that isn't taking the p15s I don't know what is.

Its almost as if they are deliberately wanting fans to walk away

where do you think Pearson gets his money out of the club?

just shows how bad it is,if wilf doesn`t go to an away game.

Well said George. Wilf, like the rest of us seems to be at the end of his patience. I really don't understand what's happening with our club. No communication from those in charge and pathetic performances from the team. It doesn't look promising. Hope you're keeping well.

health not so good now,having paliative care,thaanks for asking mal.hope yo are keeping well,

Going to try and give the podcast a listen tonight but anyone care to give a summary of what was said? Should I also have alcohol to hand to drown my sorrows?

I was surprised how brutally honest the the journalists were especially Dan as he is close to the club. Perhaps not now! Fair play to them they told the truth and reflected the fans frustrations.

They focused on the decline of the club since the cup wins and how terrible the recruitment has been and how desperate things are highlighted by the Leigh debacle which did come as surprise.

Strap yourself in it's tough to listen to but as fans it's only what has been voiced on here for years.

Drown your sorrows with alcohol but once you sober up the reality of the mess our club is in won't go away.

Do any of you chaps have a link to the podcast please?

Spotify - rlhttps://spoti.fi/492BHYCrl

Amazon - rlhttps://amzn.to/3IHBKhVrl

Apple - rlhttps://apple.co/3PpvT4yrl

After I listened to it I watched Threads to cheer myself up.

Thanks very much!

You won't be thanking them after you listen to it

It's pretty much the same depressing theme through the press , Martin Sadler was on a pod cast on YT yesterday saying the same thing .