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| Quote: ccs "Same happened with Dean Hadley, we offered him more per year (for 2 years) and rovers offered him less per year (for 3 years), but it added up to more overall. It's a risk players have to take when subsequent decent contracts may never happen.'"
Hadley was and is bang average
Litten we should of kept
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| Quote: Dave K. "But Saints could have kept them by offering them longer and better deals, but they had faith in Welsby and Dodds, rather than pay over the odds for players.'"
Dodds has been one of the best players in the league
Fages was ok but nothing special and hasn't done a great deal at Huddersfield really
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| Finances permitting I'd definitely give Ma'u another year (maybe even 2) I remember seeing an article when we signed him about his troubles when he was younger and he didn't start playing properly until he was 25/26 so I can't see age being a problem if he's only been playing properly for 6 or 7 years.
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| Quote: Yippee try yay "Finances permitting I'd definitely give Ma'u another year (maybe even 2) I remember seeing an article when we signed him about his troubles when he was younger and he didn't start playing properly until he was 25/26 so I can't see age being a problem if he's only been playing properly for 6 or 7 years.'"
I agree. I think we're now seeing the real Manu Ma'u who is tearing it up this season.
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| Quote: Hessle Roader "I agree. I think we're now seeing the real Manu Ma'u who is tearing it up this season.'"
I wonder if that's because he is getting better quality passes from the Scrum half , always felt when he played on the outside of sneyd he got some right bad flat passes from him
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| Quote: Hessle Roader "I agree. I think we're now seeing the real Manu Ma'u who is tearing it up this season.'"
He is nowhere near the player I watched playing for Parramatta and Tonga but is having a better season this year.
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| Quote: Woods1969 "I wonder if that's because he is getting better quality passes from the Scrum half , always felt when he played on the outside of sneyd he got some right bad flat passes from him'"
Sneyd been found out, even Salford fans are starting to see it, much better last two games without him.
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| Quote: Thetalentboy "Why he's our 3rd best hooker
Lovodua is miles better than Houghton
Balmforth showed more attacking intent than Houghton has in 15 years
Lovodua and balmforth can both tackle aswell!
Houghton get rid end of'"
You have watched Balmforth for 25 minutes in which he carried the ball twice and made 5 tackles, he is an 18 year old kid playimg bottom of the league in a dominant display. I think you ate getting carried away.
Big risk to no with him and Lovodua (who has hardly played at hooker) next season.
Think we need to either keep Houghton or replace him.
But if he stays he needs resting to get the best out if him.
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| Quote: Freddie Miller. "He is nowhere near the player I watched playing for Parramatta and Tonga but is having a better season this year.'"
Think he has been pretty decent all the time, but stepped up this year, had a few injuries which haven't helped and as has been said, much better now he us getting better ball.
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| Quote: Dave K. "You have watched Balmforth for 25 minutes in which he carried the ball twice and made 5 tackles, he is an 18 year old kid playimg bottom of the league in a dominant display. I think you ate getting carried away.
Big risk to no with him and Lovodua (who has hardly played at hooker) next season.
Think we need to either keep Houghton or replace him.
But if he stays he needs resting to get the best out if him.'"
It's easy to get carried away with youngsters. The step from 18 to 20 is hard for any young lad but for a professional athlete a lot can happen in that time. Balmforth looks the real deal but he isn't there yet.
I think having Houghton but spelling him with Balmforth would be ideal. Lovadua (hopefully), MacNamara and Hookem can cover the position.
It'd have to be a big signing to replace Mint, say Brad Dwyer or Sam Powell. I can't see either of them coming to us which means someone from the NRL. That'll be expensive and a risk and it might mean Denive not getting much time on the pitch.
Pragmatically, Houghton goes round again for me.
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| Quote: Dave K. "You have watched Balmforth for 25 minutes in which he carried the ball twice.'"
Excellent.
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| Quote: Freddie Miller. "He is nowhere near the player I watched playing for Parramatta and Tonga but is having a better season this year.'"
Even so, he's still the best player in our squad.
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| Quote: C for Cuckoo "Quote: C for Cuckoo "You have watched Balmforth for 25 minutes in which he carried the ball twice and made 5 tackles, he is an 18 year old kid playimg bottom of the league in a dominant display. I think you ate getting carried away.
Big risk to no with him and Lovodua (who has hardly played at hooker) next season.
Think we need to either keep Houghton or replace him.
But if he stays he needs resting to get the best out if him.'"
It's easy to get carried away with youngsters. The step from 18 to 20 is hard for any young lad but for a professional athlete a lot can happen in that time. Balmforth looks the real deal but he isn't there yet.
I think having Houghton but spelling him with Balmforth would be ideal. Lovadua (hopefully), MacNamara and Hookem can cover the position.
It'd have to be a big signing to replace Mint, say Brad Dwyer or Sam Powell. I can't see either of them coming to us which means someone from the NRL. That'll be expensive and a risk and it might mean Denive not getting much time on the pitch.
Pragmatically, Houghton goes round again for me.'"
Whilst at times I have been critical of Houghton in the most part its due to the way we flog him for 80mins week in week out thats the issue rather than Houghton himself. I'd give him a 1 year extension with a view to bringing Balmforth through for 2024.
We just need to spell Houghton better in games to get the maximum performances from him as unfortunately father time is catching up with him and 80 mins every week even thiough he can just about make it we don't get the best out of him as an individual or as a team doing so.
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| Quote: Chris71 "Whilst at times I have been critical of Houghton in the most part its due to the way we flog him for 80mins week in week out thats the issue rather than Houghton himself. I'd give him a 1 year extension with a view to bringing Balmforth through for 2024.
We just need to spell Houghton better in games to get the maximum performances from him as unfortunately father time is catching up with him and 80 mins every week even thiough he can just about make it we don't get the best out of him as an individual or as a team doing so.'"
To be fair to Hodgson, I'm sure Lovodua would have played more games at hooker, if it wasn't for our first choice halfbacks either been poor or getting themselves suspended for stupid things.
Not sure we will see that much of Lovodua at hooker this year unfortunately.
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| Quote: Chris71 "Whilst at times I have been critical of Houghton in the most part its due to the way we flog him for 80mins week in week out thats the issue rather than Houghton himself. I'd give him a 1 year extension with a view to bringing Balmforth through for 2024.
We just need to spell Houghton better in games to get the maximum performances from him as unfortunately father time is catching up with him and 80 mins every week even thiough he can just about make it we don't get the best out of him as an individual or as a team doing so.'"
Yeah totally agree if lovaduo was to be given the number 9 shirt next season and made first choice I'd be happy to see Danny given another year deal and be a the interchange hooker but I'd imagine if Danny gets a new deal he would still be first choice getting flogged most games
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