I wouldnt worry too much if I were you, its about time we slapped one of the big boys, you just got unlucky

Anyone see what happened when your player got sinbinned at the end? and why Sutcliffe was taken off?
Couldnt see it properly, heard someone dropped an elbow, but surely that would be a red? (Unless Child bottled it again)

Defence is always the barometer of any side
Defence at home is an even bigger barometer
Would I be concerned ? - I'd have a sleepless night
Is Adam concerned ? You bet

We've had the cue on the rack since CC final

Who's fault is that ?

Maybe Radford's comments after the Wigan game, regarding some individuals
pre-game preparation is rearing its ugly head? - or just maybe time to lock Radford
out the dressing room again...

Manu shin binned for a shoulder charge but judging by the reaction of the players, complained to Childs to a man, it was a dodgy decision.

The balance of the team doesn't look right. I think losing our winger was a big blow as we had to play our interchange hooker there.
I know Pritchard wasn't value for money, but he added impact and gave teams something to think about. We just don't have any impact off the bench.
Thompson is ineffective for me and I'd rather see Hadley on the bench and Thompson out on loan.
I feel as though I've spent the last 160 minutes in games just watching the oppositions attacking moves. I've not seen my own team play anything other than catch up panicky rugby for 20 minutes after each half time.
We had players back this week as well. Not panic stations yet, but conceding 100+ points in two home games is something I wouldn't have imagined last season.

I got bored yesterday of watching us just pass the ball the full length of the line, through literally every pair of hands, only for Griffin to have no option but a drop off pass to Talanoa (later Connor) who had to run back inside due to no space on the outside. No dummy runners or cut out passes, Just one pair of hands to the next (and at a very slow pace) We rarely give our winger a free run in to the line from 20 metres out like other teams can do.

Really struggling without Houghton as it all starts with him.

Strange how a couple of years ago, according to some on here, Houghton was the reason why we were losing games.

It was always a massive gamble having a squad with one specialist experienced hooker.

Shame we didn't sign O'Brien.

As good as he is he is not the be all and end all.
He would have no bearing on the slow passing from 1 wing to the other, the stupid penalties we needlessly give away, the poor ball retention and inability to complete a full set, the petulance of Fonua I could go on.
Yes his scoots from dummy half are good but i doubt any one would go with him and although he is a tackling machine he cannot cover every blade of grass.
Until we start competing and playing as a team with energy and enthusiasm and discover an attacking threat we are knackered with or without him.

They're only penalties if the referee decides that they are.

How many times [idoes [/ithe ref give a penalty when we all think he shouldn't have, and how many times [idoesn't [/ihe give a penalty...... you get the drift.

Every tackle needs the ref to make a judgement, and they're getting it wrong too many times (for both teams).

It's the apparent randomness of a lot of it that frustrates everyone.

A lot of the time I'm on edge when we are defending because you can never tell when the ref will blow his whistle. For every clear cut penalty there is an apparently arbitrary decision. If it puts me on edge then what does it do to the players.

Spot on

Oh come on what a lame reply that is, let's not start blaming the refs for our lack of discipline. Rules are rules and our players should know not what they can and can't do.
The stupid laying on, the lifting of legs, stripping of balls. If we didn't stupidly do these things then the ref wouldn't be in a position to use his own interpretation.
So no they are penalties because they are penalties.
You get the drift.....

...If you think every penalty is a penalty, then so be it.

I didn't realise the ref was always right - I'll watch the game in a different light from now on.