I know what he's trying to say but what he actually said isAdds up to a total of 10k didn't go over a 4 year period to every single game

His figures are wrong anyway, he has ignored VAT, ignored the fact that not everyone who is no longer attending isn't an adult, ignored the intervening price increases and ignored the fact that we have an income sharing agreement with the SMC. The figure of £2.5m is way off the mark.

According to bumpy's figures, we've lost a total of 40050 supporters through the gate in total in the last 4 seasons, if we use 2011 attendance figures as a baseline. Ignoring the extra game in 2015 and any intervening price rises, let's take an average ticket price of £18 which is likely on the high side. This would be £15 after VAT, giving a gross income loss of approx £600k over the 4 seasons. I'm not sure what the current income sharing scheme is with the SMC but if it's still 50/50 then we've "lost" a maximum of £300k (and likely a fair bit less) in ticket income over the period in question. Some way off the £2.5m reported

Lets face it.

Baristas threat of 1000 people not renewing their pass this year will not end the club.


Gates dropping below 7k will hit us financially.

And if Pearson is bleating on about how our gates are at 6k, why on earth haven't they been announced at that, hes admitting false accounting

Without doubt Pearson has made mistakes most of them through bad advice ,we knew his knowledge of Rl was limited and he did have to rely on those who he thought knew best.Clearly he was given some really poor advice and now he is paying the price, however i do feelbsome of his comments are puzzling ." Rovers have better attendances than us" ??? I dont know how he came up with that because look at the figures given out by both Clubs and it shows a different story. You dont need to be a mastermind winner to know that falling crowds meens less cash and that puts the Club in trouble,we all have opinions what needs doing to change it but thereality is whats happening now and mock him if like but he is right the Club needs backing to invest more to make the Club better.The Radford out brigade need to understand Pearson is sticking by him and that wont change any time now and withdrawing support will do the club more harm then good and if your true fans you wont want this.Come on back the Club or lose it

My thoughts exactly!! well said that man!

They announce the attendance based on ticket sales, rather than bodies through the door. So if 3,000 people with passes didn't bother, they'd still be shown as part of the attendance. It's not just Hull FC who do it, it's fairly standard practise across sporting events, festivals, concerts etc.

Nope, nothing false about it.

What a set of odious, repugnant, self-entitled "fans" we're becoming.

We're still much better off than the majority of my time as a Hull fan, and yet we have in our history never had so many whining ingrates. If anyone thinks that sacking Radford and getting rid of Pearson is somehow going to rocket us into top four certainties, then they are retarded.

The singular issue holding the club back is the financial constraints of our terms at the stadium. That will be a millstone around the clubs neck whoever is in charge.

It's not , it's the quality of rugby and the lack of success. The experience of the "jam tomorrow" over the years and a lack of confidence in the future based on some stupid decisions in the recent past by the current owner don't help either. The fact that we were so well placed in 2011 to press on and messed it up big time is disappointing at best.

don't be silly, it's always someone else's fault, that is the way FC fans roll now.

Radford is rubbish, end of conversation.

You really don't get it do you.

There was an article in the HDM which I based my figures on....



If you read carefully, we will notice that it refers to a 4k drop in attendances over four years.
It might be right, it might be wrong, but it is based on 2010's average of 14,000.

Anyway, back to the bit you can't understand. I'm not counting twice or three times....

A 1k drop in attendance, so 1k don't go, so over 4 years 4k don't go.
The following year, another 1k drop in attendance, so another 1k don't go, so over 3 years another 3k don't go.

After 4 years, the equivalent of 10k haven't bought a pass, say, during that 4 year period.

If you can't see that's plainly right then you really shouldn't be questioning the intelligence of anyone else.

indeed, and they don't go because the product is inferior, simple market forces.

Which is the point you clown

Why is Pearson bleating that crowds are at 6k?

Hes sold 7000+ season tickets, so our average "sales" are at 9k per game, so in annoucing 6k he gets zero credit. because 9000 have paid for that game.

If he'd sold 5000 passes and gates started the year at 9000 and ended year at 5k, then bleat how our gares are smaller then the 50 nil club.

I just dont see the point in him giving negative spin

..... or maybe he is saying only 6k paid and went to the game, which is worrying, surely?

How is that possible

Attendance 9k+

pass holders 7k+

Large queues outside ticket office picking up tickets, plenty using "pay on the day gates"

I've no idea - attendances have always been a mystery to me.
Were there really 1500 more at the cat game, even allowing for "lots of free tickets"?

If attendances include all passholders, whether or not they attend, plus the SMC allocation, then maybe 2k+ passholders simply didn't go.

(I believe pass sales were nearer 8k than 7k.)