I know you live in a simplistic world but to claim everything has improved under gentle is a dog shiit statement even by your standards. Things aren't as bad as they were under agar overall (Hard to imagine that any coach couldn't have brought about improvements from that idiot) but they're far from good and the team has under performed for more games than it has performed as well as it should. That you can only quote me 2 examples out of the 20 or so games we've played proves my point.

Now gentle may go on to prove to be a good coach but he certainly isn't proving it currently

mcrea is on a fat salary and has done what he was brought in to do, which is why he won't be here next season "pal"

Do you believe he is consistently getting the best out of the players at his disposal?

Out of interest I Wonder what you guys with the "Black and White" tinted spectacles will think if we keep playing badly and miss out on top 8??

I love Hull FC and I support it with pride and passion but it is my prerogative to decide wether I think Gentle is doing a good job, and at this moment in time I don't think he is. And ill stress this again... It's NOT the loses, it's how poorly we are consistently playing.

Gentle deserves until at least the middle of next season but if we're as inconsistent then as we are now then I doubt he's the man to lead us to the promised land

Oh God not that old chestnut. It'll be "cash cow" next.

And thats what he will probably get and i hope that things change and he proves that he is the coach we need but judging by the previous two years and having basically the same squad at his disposal as this year i dont see things changing a great deal and that would also mean another season gone

3 games ago gentle was the best thing since sliced bread,now hes rubbish, i am really upset about the last 3 losses and couldnt sleep mon night as was so annoyed, but we can still finnish top 5 and just maybe topple cats in the cup, some on here like seb are sad trolls who only come on when we get beat and have never anything positive to say about fc,think the next few games are important for gentle and i for one hope we can turn it around,

Your a tad obsessed with me im starting to get a little worried

Competitive in the play-offs last year,
Best cup run since 2008,
Competitive and beating the supposed top 4 (Wigan aside),
Lineham, Crooks & Green,
Capture of Gareth Ellis,
Massive improvements in defensive structure,
Improvements in strength & conditioning (ask any of the players).

Three losses after what was a very impressive run, and people are questioning him. And you think my worlds simplistic?

No, but neither does McDermott and he's won the damn thing the last two years. Wigan have lost two on the bounce, Wire have had a slump, all teams suffer them.
We had a poor start to the season, not helped by disruption in the halves, that is compounding what's happening now and clouding people's judgement.
You yourself have said at the beginning of the season that we're not top 4 yet, and now it's come to fruition you're moaning about it. Gentle got it right back end of last season, why can't he this year?

Your world is obviously black and white any you can only see improvement. I see some improvement but also some worrying stagnation.

Interesting choices of measures of improvement.

Best cup run since 2008. You mean we've managed to finally beat a SL side? Wakey at home is hardly a measure of success

Competitive with the top 4 sides? Lose on sunday and we'll probably take 4 points from a potential 16 - hardly competitive IMO.

Capture of gareth ellis - We made him the best financial offer of any of the teams he would have considered signing for

Massive improvement in defensive structure? Yet we've shipped nearly 90 points in 3 games, including 2 against sides outside the top 8. Almost agaresque

Like I said, there have been improvements but your claim that everything under gentle's control has improved is dog shiit as I said

I'm "moaning" about the lack of consistency and seeming inability to get the best out of his players regularly. If he'd won a couple of SL titles or the odd challenge cup or 3 I'd maybe consider it a blip but for me the blips seem to be the good performances, not the average or poor ones. We're not a top 4 team, but then neither should we be a 7th or 8th IMO.

But you're talking as though the seasons over, there's still a very good chance that we'll finish 5th.

Personally, i that happens i will question what is going on, especially considering that by this time last year we gone from having McKinnon at FB with Horne and Seymour in the halves to Horne at FB Heremaia playing in the halves for most of the time due to limited options and bringing McGoldgrick in to the team to end up partnering in the halves after Gentle tried him at FB. add getting rid of others and bringing others in it was a bit of an unsettled squad and still getting a home play off game, winning well (yes Huddersield were poor by this time but the manner of the performance was uneniable) gave a decent showing at Wire.

This year, although we have had injuries to key players its what you would call a settled squad compared to last year and looking at us, without sounding big headed, we are a play off team but we still got to earn that place and if we don't i will be very disappointed and not making the play offs would be taking a big step backwards

Whether or not you think i have 'Black and White' tinited spectacles you can be judge of that but this is my thoughts, I did stay to the end of the game but as soon as the hooter went i was out of there, unlike other games like Wigan where i felt the team earned the applause of the fans

There's a small chance if we see a drastic improvement in our form