I got bored after the second paragraph, but thanks for sharing. Now go sleep it off.

Mushrooms? That's crack, at the very least.

And yet, back in December we have this upbeat assessment...



What a difference one dismal result makes, eh?

Probably, he was only typing for 30 seconds

Totally agree, I've been a little baffled by it myself, he still wasn't up to much last night. He's been getting steadily better, but IMO is currently our 4th best 2nd rower and we'd be better off playing only 3 and the extra prop at 13 with our current options. I'd actually sooner see Pitts in the 2nd than Galea, personally.

Nope.

TL;DR

round 5 and we've already got our main contender for rant of the season

Seymour isn't good enough we know this but we don't have too many options. His confidence must be shot to pieces and everything he seems to try backfires on him. AP didn't help last season and geting dropped after one game (Leeds) won't have helped either. Not sure what PG can go now though. Drop him probably but that won't help next time we have to call on him.

Probably best thing for Brett himself is to leave. Doing him no good here.

If Seymour's confidence is shot to pieces to the point where he can't play, and he thinks this is due to the fans/owner, then surely you'd step down?

You have to look at it this way: the guy has a choice of sitting on his hands bringing in the cash whilst his stock value plummets, or asking for a release so he can find somewhere else to rebuild his career before its too late.

If I was Brett Seymour and I had any ambition to keep playing at the top level at the end of this contract, I'd have left in the off season. The fact that he's chosen to stay and clearly can't perform tells me he's either happy to take the money or just isn't good enough.

Really, is that the best you can do...really poor effort as my comment pre season is not in context to what I have written regarding my feelings here.
it's nothing to do with the result but people laying the blame for inept performances both at Leeds and yesterday at Seymour's door and clearly having zero idea as to why he isn't going to pull a massive performance out of the bag. Yet again we have some failings which we would have thought would be ironed out by now, some injuries to key personell and certain mistakes made by the club and coach that are and will bite us in the way I described.
It is still a very good squad (on paper) and at the beginning of the season I was looking with lots of optimism, I look forward to each game, most of all when I get the chance to go because as you know I don't live on the doorstep
My points that I highlighted exist, and because they do this is part of why we will be just about getting into the 8 and no-where near the 4, this season at least.

So if you want to make a point then please do so with something relevant to my post here and not a previous post made before we had started the season that has no bearing to Seymour being treated like the scapegoat he's made out to be.

People seeing this as a rant, it isn't, it is to prove a point that laying the blame at one player is not on, I highlighted the issues the club still has and the specific problems that have turned out for this season. No season is perfect, it never will be (almost though in 82/83), players and coaches aren't perfect, we can't predict how things will go with regard to injuries and how player development works out (or not) but lambasting one player when many have hardly showered themselves in glory isn't what we as fans should be doing.
yes, it's pants when we lose, it's worse when we get battered with an inept performance but Seymour is not the problem in so much as how things have turned out. clearly for a fair portion of fans both on here and on the terraces he is the sole reason we have been poor.

Rant over

Am I missing something here, do we believe that the current top 8 as it is now is going to change drastically, yes we might/should make the 8, but we really have to change our attitude and man up.

The fact of the matter is that we have been to all intent and purpose pretty damn poor thus far, Widnes may be a watershed, it may not and then we can expect more of the same. However, Peter Gentles idea of a lightweight and mobile pack only works if we have a halfback pairing that can tear teams a new one, we certainly don't have that key halfback pair so how is a lightweight and mobile pack going to help us.

I see a long season ahead, which may give us another top 8 place and a play off win, but top 4 and or progression!!!! Sorry not with this side, is that PG's fault? Well he's the coach so I guess the answer to that is yes, is it a reason to get rid? Probably not, but Brett Seymour is not the solution in the same way that he is not the sole problem. We all had huge expectations for this season, and it is shown thus far that those expectations are over and above the capabilities of this side.

We have to be realistic, in that without a decent halfback pairing, and as much as I respect Richard Horne, he is not the solution.

As ever with Hull FC, we are one halfback short of a picnic!!!

Simples!!!

When was Horne ever suggested as the answer?

He started the season as back up 1 or 6, a ing good back up may I add.

if there one thing seymour is or was good at,. then its drinking.....

Smailsey's given Seymour a 4 in the local rag. Can't remember the last person to get a 4. Although Thorman must of been close a few time. Time to go I'll donate to the payhimoff fund.