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Quote: ICECREAMMAN "does that include the period of the neck injury and the managing of an illness or not, or the period he has played with no other recognised half pairing partner or not '"

If you took the time to read previous posts you would see i have mentioned those things and I am not in the Horne is great or the Horne is crap camp. I was making a point that there is nobody who is right or wrong in this argument not until next season when we see how Horne performs alongside a good organisational scrum half as well as another kicker on the field.

Quote: ICECREAMMAN "Nope. I stated last season that I was afraid that he [imight[/i be finished. He proved me wrong and I'm big enough to admit it. Between the odd live game, TV, and highlights I've seen a reasonable amount of him and I can see his stats.'"


So he was poor last season, yet his stats last season are comparable to this seasons superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... eason=2011
Quote: ICECREAMMAN "does that include the period of the neck injury and the managing of an illness or not, or the period he has played with no other recognised half pairing partner or not '"

If you took the time to read previous posts you would see i have mentioned those things and I am not in the Horne is great or the Horne is crap camp. I was making a point that there is nobody who is right or wrong in this argument not until next season when we see how Horne performs alongside a good organisational scrum half as well as another kicker on the field.

Quote: ICECREAMMAN "Nope. I stated last season that I was afraid that he [imight[/i be finished. He proved me wrong and I'm big enough to admit it. Between the odd live game, TV, and highlights I've seen a reasonable amount of him and I can see his stats.'"


So he was poor last season, yet his stats last season are comparable to this seasons superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... eason=2011


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Quote: Marfa Manu "Who are going to win feck all!!

I just think we should have invested heavily in that position, it is the key to success, even Green offers more imo than Horney, now do not get me wrong had Horney got a 1 yr I would have been fine with this as we have been that short the last few years it would have been worth it. like mentioned I still believe/hope Ellis will make the grade and if he does believe all I have waffled about will be realised, a 6 needs to do a heck of a lot more than Horney does.
Others which have been mentioned may have similar stats to Horney however take Briers he offers a kicking game and decent defence.'"


Oooops. You mean Blake Green. I didn't see it straight away. I blame this cheap wine.

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Quote: Phil O'Stein "Oooops. You mean Blake Green. I didn't see it straight away. I blame this cheap wine.'"

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Quote: Marfa Manu "Who are going to win feck all!!'"

Aha - now the goalposts move again. icon_smile.gif

Cas aren't going to win anything either, and they have Chase. icon_mrgreen.gif

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Quote: hullbg "If you took the time to read previous posts you would see i have mentioned those things and I am not in the Horne is great or the Horne is crap camp. I was making a point that there is nobody who is right or wrong in this argument not until next season when we see how Horne performs alongside a good organisational scrum half as well as another kicker on the field.

So he was poor last season, yet his stats last season are comparable to this seasons He was poor at the start of the season when I had my concerns and improved later on IIRC. Hence his stats for the whole season ended up being decent.

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Quote: Kosh "He was poor at the start of the season when I had my concerns and improved later on IIRC. Hence his stats for the whole season ended up being decent.'"

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You just posted about moving goalposts then you post that icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

Make your mind up at the beginning of this season you feared he was finished yet you now claim he ended up last season with decent stats icon_stupid.gif

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Quote: Marfa Manu "Not really fun, some people really are clueless, take Chases stats in an average team like Cas then imagine what they would be in a team like ours with our forwards, not hard to figure out is it!'"

No need to get personal. icon_smile.gif

You're making all sorts of assumptions there. There is absolutely no guarantee that Chase would perform any better in our side right now than he does for Cas. Not sure why you keep mentioning him TBH, what with him playing in a side that will win nothing and isn't even in the top 4. icon_smile.gif

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You just posted about moving goalposts then you post that Nope. Read my posts again.

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watching the game tonight, ive only noticed one long kick from both team NOT go to the oppositions full back, useless the lot of them eh?

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Quote: Kosh "No need to get personal. The same way you keep mentioning Horney is as good as any top 4 ,Your reference to the top 4 is comical, you are basing your argument not on watching Horney every week for the last 2/3 years but by some stats posted on here which do not even include defence (an area of weakness for Horney), so they only give a glimpse of what is happening.
Very few people who go every week would consider Horney is in the top 4 numbers 6s in this country any more...and the ones who do I fear are basing this on sentimentality and not performance!

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Quote: Marfa Manu "Not really fun, some people really are clueless, take Chases stats in an average team like Cas then imagine what they would be in a team like ours with our forwards, not hard to figure out is it!'"


Very true, some people are.

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so what does everyone think about Horney,is he any good icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Marfa Manu "No goalposts move, Cas do not have the forwards, if you posted the full post instead of lifting little bits to suit your point you would see I made it clear, imagine how good he would be with a set of forwards like ours
Chase is a luxury and treated as such by Matterson. Other players get frustrated but the coach tells them not to pay out of dummy half etc, "just give it it Rangi".

He would not be afforded that luxury at a top club.

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