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| Quote: Rock God X "My opinion is at least consistent and expressed coherently. That doesn't make it 'worth more' than yours, but changing your mind from one week to the next doesn't exactly lend any credibility to your stance.'"
Never changed my stance but as i say (read the posts mate) I agree with much of what is being said because its plain for all to see.. however my credibility doesnt even enter into it mate because its no more or less than yours its all about opinion and sorry if you were one of the 9 and i wasnt
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It's okay for you to post sarcy remarks though is it?
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| Quote: ICECREAMMAN "so now the club should sack every coach that has a run of bad results because the fans show a banner ( all 9 of them) where does that end though is the question???? '"
It's not a 'run of bad results', it's a 40-odd percent win ratio for the three years he's been in charge. And it is disingenuous - silly even - to suggest that only nine fans want rid of Agar.
Quote: ICECREAMMAN "Lets the season run its course and what ever comes comes...
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And then we can write another season off and look forward to more of the same in 2012...
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| Quote: ICECREAMMAN "its all about this season mate, last season is history now (by the way you do remember we finished in the play offs yeah??) move on'"
What utter twaddle
3 out of 11 !!! and those wins were Crusaders, London and the Dobbins!!
We have only averaged 16 points in those 11 games, yet conceded an average of 26.
Simply not good enough.
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| Quote: Chris28 "Well three losses on the bounce, conceding 86 points on the way (28 points per game), technically bottom of Super League, only team without a win this year. That's all about this season.
I do remember finishing in the playoffs. I also remember that we should have finished higher up than we did in the table, so should have had a different draw, and I also remember surrendering to our greatest rivals in that play off game. Maybe we shouldn't remember that and just focus on this season eh? Oh hang on...'"
correct , after three weeks i agree its too early to make a shout on the head coach !! we have a possible (on paper0 7/8 wins ahead of us that will / should put us approx 6th on my calcs
i will return to this in 6 games and re ask you this same question!! lets hope your wrong and i am right i am sure you agree sweetie??
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| Quote: garry brindley "Yeah ok mate. I think I've got you bang to rights, if that quote isn't suggesting that I'm not a fan then I don't know what it is.'"
*shrugs* You can read it how you like, that's not how it was intended. You can also look back through my entire history of posting - I'm an argumentative sod but I've never got involved in better/worse fan arguments. Questioning how you can reconcile being a fan and wanting us to lose is not the same as saying you aren't a fan. It's questioning how you can reconcile the two.
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| Quote: ICECREAMMAN "Never changed my stance but as i say (read the posts mate) I agree with much of what is being said because its plain for all to see.. however my credibility doesnt even enter into it mate because its no more or less than yours its all about opinion and sorry if you were one of the 9 and i wasnt
Childish retorts don't help it, either.
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| Quote: Rock God X "Childish retorts don't help it, either.'"
like the banner
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| Quote: ICECREAMMAN "correct , after three weeks i agree its too early to make a shout on the head coach !! we have a possible (on paper0 7/8 wins ahead of us that will / should put us approx 6th on my calcs
i will return to this in 6 games and re ask you this same question!! lets hope your wrong and i am right i am sure you agree sweetie??'"
What are you on about??? where are the 7/8 wins coming from? Is that all year????
If you come back in 6 weeks we certainly won't have won 7/8. Let me make it easy. Played 3 lost 3. If Wakey win at the weekend wiith a 14 point swing and Crusaders beat us, we won't be technically bottom, we'll be actual bottom, played 4 lost 4. Ignore last seasons ending, when we lost 3 in a row. This time we'll have lost 4 in a row. Unacceptable for a club like ours.
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| Quote: garry brindley "That's doubtless their intended policy, but there's no denying that consistent fan pressure has the potential to force change.'"
I'm not denying anything you may be right. When was the last time Hull fans' pressure removed a coach at the club out of interest ? Len Casey, maybe ?
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| Quote: Kosh " Questioning how you can reconcile being a fan and wanting us to lose is not the same as saying you aren't a fan. It's questioning how you can reconcile the two.'"
Without wishing to stick my oar in, I'd have thought it wouldn't take a huge amount of imagination to see how the two could be reconciled. If he believes that our chances of success over the course of the season (and beyond) will be improved by Agar going, and he believes that a few losses will achieve that, then the two can be reconciled without any difficulty. You might think he's totally misguided, but it's easy to see where he's coming from.
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| Quote: ICECREAMMAN "like the banner'"
I didn't see it so I wouldn't know. If all it said was 'Agar Out', then, no.
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| Quote: ICECREAMMAN "like the banner'"
Yeah, weren't those scenes in the square in Egypt so amazing with everyone chanting for regime change and holding their 'childish retorts' aloft.
Making a banner is a recognised and reasonable form of protest, if you want to pretend that it's not it makes you look even more silly.
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| Can't be bothered to read all 11/12 pages but here's my penny's worth.
As people have already said on here, the only real protest that is going to be taken seriously is one where the fans stay away in mass numbers. The best time for this would be at the derby at easter. A half empty staduim on Sky, on derby day would send out a massive message to the board.
By this time we would have played 10 games and given the team enough time to prove that these first 3 games was just a bad start to the season.
But if the team are playing well and are winning game then we shouldnt be protesting, we should be getting behind the team. As those who protested on Sunday should have, fair enough, take your Agar Out banners but whats the point chanting Agar out and waving banners when the team put in a good effort and were unlucky to lose, these are the times you get behind them. If they played like they did against Leeds and Rovers then make yourself heard because the team are not putting in the effort they should be.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "I'm not denying anything you may be right. When was the last time Hull fans' pressure removed a coach at the club out of interest ? Len Casey, maybe ?'"
Might have been a factor in Sharpe going? Can't think of any other cases of the top of my head.
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