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| Quote: wolfie "i agree,but like ive said i dont see many threads on here slating the players from last night,seems when e lose people automaticaly steam into agar cos they cant think of anyone else to shove the blame on,when we win tho nowts said about him,maybe he isnt the right man for the job and will be replaced anytime soon.'"
The man in the big chair who makes the shouts get the bullet if it doesnt work... thats how it works
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| Quote: wolfie "i agree,but like ive said i dont see many threads on here slating the players from last night,seems when e lose people automaticaly steam into agar cos they cant think of anyone else to shove the blame on,when we win tho nowts said about him,maybe he isnt the right man for the job and will be replaced anytime soon.'"
TBF Wolfie if you read the threads they are critical of the players...however at some point you have to accept the responsibility lies at Agars feet..
He fails to drop players who are constantly performing poorly...(Briscoe)..yet drops others at the drop of a hat..(Hall)
We have one of the best players I have ever seen..(Fitz)..Agar is flogging the man to death, yet fails to utilise..Washy & Moa hardly, in order to rest Fitz..He never even spells Fitz in a game..but take Berro off every bl00dy game!!
His away record is poor, his selections are poor, his interchanges are poor...
And I have supported him and defended him but I am afraid he appears to be failing.
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "TBF Wolfie if you read the threads they are critical of the players...however at some point you have to accept the responsibility lies at Agars feet..
His away record is poor, his selections are poor, his interchanges are poor...
And I have supported him and defended him but I am afraid he appears to be failing.'"
Ok lets look at the players and not Agar ( but remember who puts them on the team sheet though!!)
who is letting us down..
Radford : Looks like a s horse he blows so much , ever Agar must see he is shot to bits and past it!
Dowes: does it show in the stats anywhere if this guy has ever broken a tackle in an SL match ??
Yeaman: how long are we going to persist with a player who is still living off the reputation of one decent season 3 years ago?? and since has been pants at best .
Berrigan : this isnt the SOO player that I remember or the player who tore GB apart time after time test after test...
there is four to start with ...
and Agar continues to pick them ??
Mr Agar if you ever wake up and feel a sharp apin in your back it may be that backbone starting to grow !! but i doubt you will feel it..
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| Quote: wolfie "i agree,but like ive said i dont see many threads on here slating the players from last night,seems when e lose people automaticaly steam into agar cos they cant think of anyone else to shove the blame on,when we win tho nowts said about him,maybe he isnt the right man for the job and will be replaced anytime soon.'"
You're not looking hard enough. There's been plenty of criticism of the players, both as individuals and a group. The simple fact is, though, that when a side with a large proportion of new players demonstrates all the same faults that the last group of players exhibited, the finger of blame is going to get pointed at the one common factor. The coach.
Oh and BTW - I [ido[/i credit him when we do well and have commented on the unfairness of only ever blaming rather than praising.
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| Quote: GODS UNDERTAKER "clearly not
He has a point. There is absolutely no reason for personal insults, either about Agar or other posters. This is an area you seem to struggle with all the time. Civility costs nothing.
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32444_1318716838.jpg [quote="Philip Larkin":2lhqd089]
There ain’t no music
East side of this city
That’s mellow like mine is,
That’s mellow like mine.
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| You really only have to look at Wigan this season to see what difference a coach can make.
McGuire inherited virtually the same side that Noble left last year - but they're obviously in a completely different league to last season.
Same players - utterly different level of motivation. Roberts being the finest example. Only one person can be responsible for that and that's the coach. Many thought Noble was hard done to last season after taken Wigan to decent play-off runs for the last two seasons (a finer record than Agar's it must be said) but Wigan's board has clearly been vindicated for their "brave" decision.
If Hull are going to do this then they need to make that decision sooner rather than later. I've got a big feeling of deja vu now, and guess Agar won't need more than the Easter period to confirm for me that this season is going the same way as the last two. If that's proven, the board must be brave and act then, I'm afraid.
I do, however, sincerely hope that I am wrong and we blast Rovers off the CP pitch, hammer Wire into the KC park then go and show the "Champions" why it's Bluey that should be the first coach to go. But who really thinks that is going to happen now?
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| Quote: WormInHand "You really only have to look at Wigan this season to see what difference a coach can make.
McGuire inherited virtually the same side that Noble left last year - but they're obviously in a completely different league to last season.
Same players - utterly different level of motivation. Roberts being the finest example. Only one person can be responsible for that and that's the coach. Many thought Noble was hard done to last season after taken Wigan to decent play-off runs for the last two seasons (a finer record than Agar's it must be said) but Wigan's board has clearly been vindicated for their "brave" decision.
If Hull are going to do this then they need to make that decision sooner rather than later. I've got a big feeling of deja vu now, and guess Agar won't need more than the Easter period to confirm for me that this season is going the same way as the last two. If that's proven, the board must be brave and act then, I'm afraid.
I do, however, sincerely hope that I am wrong and we blast Rovers off the CP pitch, hammer Wire into the KC park then go and show the "Champions" why it's Bluey that should be the first coach to go. But who really thinks that is going to happen now?'"
Interesting that this time last year most people on here wanted either Bluey or Brian McDermott as our new coach
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32444_1318716838.jpg [quote="Philip Larkin":2lhqd089]
There ain’t no music
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That’s mellow like mine is,
That’s mellow like mine.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Interesting that this time last year most people on here wanted either Bluey or Brian McDermott as our new coach
I do like McClennan and think it would be unfair for either him or McDermott to go - their injuries are as massive as ours were last season. Agar rightly was given more time to prove himself with a fully fit squad.
What now, though?
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| Most of us are not privvy to the insider going on of TEAM FC, most of us do however have watched FC for a number of years. We have seen them through good and bad, we have supported them throught those times and we can clearly see things are not right. Many fans remember last season and the way it ended up, the signs are there now we are heading in the same direction. A loss at KR and then the Wire on Monday will invoke a crowd reaction at that game and from there on in he is on borrowed time. I don't care if he is nice bloke or not he is there to coach FC and give the teams the tools to do the job and he is clearly failing. I would employ the biggest nastiest coach in the league as long as he gets results. I am constantly hearing " he is a nice bloke " or " so and so says he is a good coach", I like many others can see clearly the preparations have been all wrong.
No doubt the performance last night will be blamed on ref, injuries or players not doing as instructed as usual, trouble is some of us a getting a little tired of the same guff. It wears thin after a while and no amount of excuses or spin will cover up the shortcomings of TEAM FC, the team spirit in the team is not as it appears or what they tell us it is either. The team is split into factions and the blame for that lies with one person, sod the Tongan mafia its the Westie mafia that rule.
The balance of the team is all wrong and we can and will suffer for that our backs are far to slow and or inexperienced. Teams will now target our backs and not be drawn into a forward battle and even as I write this Justin will be working out his battle plan to use his better backs against ours. We are getting that predictable and close to the line we incapable of scoring unless it comes off a kick.
Give Agar more time by all means, but be prepared to suffer as a result.
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| Phil Brown's having a spot of bother with his begonias..........
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| Quote: Sexual Deviant "Phil Brown's having a spot of bother with his begonias..........
Is he putting them under the sunbed too long?
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| Quote: Kosh "He has a point. There is absolutely no reason for personal insults, either about Agar or other posters. This is an area you seem to struggle with all the time. Civility costs nothing.'"
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32444_1318716838.jpg [quote="Philip Larkin":2lhqd089]
There ain’t no music
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That’s mellow like mine is,
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| Quote: Ian P " Teams will now target our backs and not be drawn into a forward battle and even as I write this Justin will be working out his battle plan to use his better backs against ours. We are getting that predictable and close to the line we incapable of scoring unless it comes off a kick.
Give Agar more time by all means, but be prepared to suffer as a result.'"
It's not rocket science, is it? Said our weakness had been sussed after Wigan
I'm getting a bad feeling about the season ahead. No sign of a new winger and the team spirit seems to be descending into apathy just like the last two years. What does go on behind our closed doors?
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| The sad thing is at the beginning of the season I ,along no doubt with others, was feeling very confident.Unfortuanatly,this is starting to evaporate now.I stated a while ago that if Agar could do nothing with this squad he has no hope.
I am now starting to sweat a little over Good Friday.
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| Quote: WormInHand "You really only have to look at Wigan this season to see what difference a coach can make.
McGuire inherited virtually the same side that Noble left last year - but they're obviously in a completely different league to last season.
Same players - utterly different level of motivation. Roberts being the finest example. Only one person can be responsible for that and that's the coach. Many thought Noble was hard done to last season after taken Wigan to decent play-off runs for the last two seasons (a finer record than Agar's it must be said) but Wigan's board has clearly been vindicated for their "brave" decision.'" But what happens if Wigan don't get that far in the play offs this year? Is it failure? Bring back Nobby? Will the Wigan fans be happy with the league leaders shield but not getting to Old Trafford?
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