You seem to think it's willy nilly that you can just get rid of half the team not even thinking of who can replace them... Oh wait, the U21's, a very young U21 side who get out muscled by most of there peers in that league. Do you even think how it might mess up their development?

I agree Tony Smith has turned Warrington around with the same players apart from swapping Gleeson for Mathers. Nathan Brown has done wonders at Huddersfield with just a handful of his own signings.

If I thought for one moment they were being developed correctly then I might worry. As someone who watches the 21s regularly I fail to see any development at all. BUT what I would see is a bit of commitment from the first minute unlike the drivel that is being served up at the moment were the commitment for the cause starts in minute 50 when the game is lost.

All I ask for is pride and commitment to the shirt they wear. If you reckon you are getting that at the moment then tell me where I am going wrong.

All the "give Agar time", "it isn't his team" rhetoric that has been spouted on here has achieved exactly what some of us warned you.

I bet Crocker is delighted he never got a visa, and Berrigan et al are wondering what the hell they signed up for.

I suppose the simple answer to that would be "it still isn't his team".

I think the vast, vast majority of that rhetoric has been coming from the club rather than the fans. Most fans seem to think, quite rightly, that he's not up to the job.

Wondered how long it would take for this thread to start.

I also seem to remember most of the fans didn't want him appointed in the first place so I'm not sure where this thread is coming from?

Does any coach really have their own team? Tony Smith at Wire doesn't????

Me neither, but I know where it's going...

Anyone else think the recent stories of RL players in Oz getting drunk and misbehaving is to keep them off Hull FC's radar?

I really thought it was a bad appointment when it was announced however I tihnk he needs time to finish what he is doing with the squad. If a new man comes in at the end of the season, it'll be he needs time to assess the players which'll mean that players who are in contract but aren't good enough e.g. King, Radford, Tickle will stay and we may miss out on more promising signings for next year.

That's either "nothing", in which case he can finish now, or getting us to the bottom of SL, which starts with defeat on Friday night.

Either way it's no good at all.