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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Grade F charge for Griffin - Questioning the Integrity of an Official. Referred to the tribunal.
FFS what's that then - eight matches?'"
Potentially. Plenty of time to really launch that personal coaching business
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Grade F charge for Griffin - Questioning the Integrity of an Official. Referred to the tribunal.
FFS what's that then - eight matches?'"
Potentially more than the tackle from the Wakey player.
Chance for Staverley, give him a few games in the first team. Brown for Taylor, Clifford for Hoy if out, if not Litten on the bench fit Dywer.
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| So the good news is that Fash is NFA, the bad news is Grade F for Griffin.
Whilst I don't condone abuse of the officials I would say unless Griffin has really gone to town and called Kendal something extreme the grading at F seems crazy.
Unless the RFL have cast iron evidence of Kendals mic recording what was said I just don't see how the MRP can bring any real judgement or punishment. The linesman was behind and would likely have been out of earshot bending down to pick up the ball initially to have heard what was said with the crowd noise at the time. If no recording then its a case of one word against the other and as both have previous then its fair to say the MRP can not justifiably apportion blame or punishment to either without evidence.
That said the MRP have form for taking sides without clear evidence in the recent tribunal with Josh McGuire claiming Charnley was an 'Impressive & credible witness' and that Kasiano & Philbin as witnesses added nothing as 'they were not in close enough proximity'. So are they likely to say the same about Kendal but would be questionable if they class the touch judge being close enough?
If Griffin hasn't said anything that warrants a Grade F charge, I hope the club defend him and take the fight to the RFL/MRP and Kendal.
Just feel the RFL/MRP will back up Kendal regardless.
No mention of the shoulder charge made by Batchelor or Walmsley sliding in with his knees on Trueman when scoring.
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| Quote: Chris71 "So the good news is that Fash is NFA and bad news is Grade F for Griffin.
Whilst I don't condone abuse of the officials I would say unless Griffin has really gone to town and called Kendal something extreme the grading at F seems crazy.
Unless the RFL have cast iron evidence as in a recording of what was said I just don't see how the MRP can bring any real judgement or punishment. The linesman was behind and would likely have been out of earshot bending down to pick up the ball initially to have heard what was said with the crowd noise at the time. If no recording then its a case of one word against the other and as both have previous then its fair to say the MRP can not justifiably apportion blame or punishment to either without evidence.
That said the MRP have form for taking sides without clear evidence in the recent tribunal with Josh McGuire claiming Charnley was an 'Impressive & credible witness' and that Kasiano & Philbin as witnesses added nothing as 'they were not in close enough proximity'. So are they likely to say the same about Kendal but would be questionable if they class the touch judge being close enough?
If Griffin hasn't said anything that warrants a Grade F charge, I hope the club defend him and take the fight to the RFL/MRP and Kendal.
Just feel the RFL/MRP will back up Kendal regardless.'"
You have to remember that the ref, linesmen and video ref are wired for sound together, so whatever was said was witnessed by all of the officials. Grade F isn’t to be taken lightly and wouldn’t have been referred to tribunal unless they have either witnesses or corroborative recordings. I’m amazed the BBC didn’t have it on screen but I haven’t watched it. Didn’t they have Kendall’s voice over on the show? I would guess 8 matches if found guilty, especially after the Cas incident.
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| Im sure Hock got less matchs when he pushed the ref, think the RFL should release the transcript, if it's that bad fair enough, but I can't imagine anything he said warrants that kind of ban, unless he used discrimination language in any way.
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| Quote: Armavinit "You have to remember that the ref, linesmen and video ref are wired for sound together, so whatever was said was witnessed by all of the officials. Grade F isn’t to be taken lightly and wouldn’t have been referred to tribunal unless they have either witnesses or corroborative recordings. I’m amazed the BBC didn’t have it on screen but I haven’t watched it. Didn’t they have Kendall’s voice over on the show? I would guess 8 matches if found guilty, especially after the Cas incident.'"
The only time you hear anything is when Carlos goes to speak to Kendal and you can just hear Kendal say 'dissent' and that's about it.
It's to be hoped the any recordings / transcripts are available to club which show a grade F is justifiable, as unless Griffin used derogatory terms or some extreme language F seems excessive. Would calling Kendal a joke be classed a Grade F in all seriousness?
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| Questioning the integrity - I read as accused him of being a cheat ? That’s all he had to say, don’t need to swear at him to question his integrity. Hopefully plead guilty, learn from it and move on.
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| Quote: Armavinit "You have to remember that the ref, linesmen and video ref are wired for sound together, so whatever was said was witnessed by all of the officials. Grade F isn’t to be taken lightly and wouldn’t have been referred to tribunal unless they have either witnesses or corroborative recordings. I’m amazed the BBC didn’t have it on screen but I haven’t watched it. Didn’t they have Kendall’s voice over on the show? I would guess 8 matches if found guilty, especially after the Cas incident.'"
Youre an F ing joke Not you Armavinit
thats what was said
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| Seeing as Kaide Ellis' offence has been graded as D then perhaps Griffin would have been better advised to have stuck the nut on Kendal rather than question his integrity............ just saying
It just shows the disparity in grading for offences when a head butt is considerably less of a grading all things considered.
I just hope that whatever was actually said by Griffin and the whole process of the tribunal there is total transparency.
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| Quote: Chris71 "The only time you hear anything is when Carlos goes to speak to Kendal and you can just hear Kendal say 'dissent' and that's about it.
It's to be hoped the any recordings / transcripts are available to club which show a grade F is justifiable, as unless Griffin used derogatory terms or some extreme language F seems excessive. Would calling Kendal a joke be classed a Grade F in all seriousness?'"
If the club thought there was any mileage in appealing i think they would but they know the facts
he has no defence
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| Quote: bonaire "If the club thought there was any mileage in appealing i think they would but they know the facts
he has no defence'"
They still might appeal and put a case forward tonight.
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| Quote: Irregs#16 "They still might appeal and put a case forward tonight.'"
doubt it may then get a grade X if there was one
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| Quote: bonaire "Quote: bonaire "You have to remember that the ref, linesmen and video ref are wired for sound together, so whatever was said was witnessed by all of the officials. Grade F isn’t to be taken lightly and wouldn’t have been referred to tribunal unless they have either witnesses or corroborative recordings. I’m amazed the BBC didn’t have it on screen but I haven’t watched it. Didn’t they have Kendall’s voice over on the show? I would guess 8 matches if found guilty, especially after the Cas incident.'"
Youre an F ing joke Not you Armavinit
thats what was said'"
If that is what was actually said then I'm sorry but that does not warrant a grade F charge.
If this is the situation then it just sums up how out of touch Kendal is with the game and lacks any ability to effectively communicate with players in game situation when tempers, adrenaline and occasions are high.
All he had to do to calm the situation down was talk to the player instead of being unapproachable like he was as though he is above everyone.
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| My mate around the club has said that as far as he’s aware griffin said he felt that that saint fans were influencing Kendall too much and when he got yellow he said something around “ing joke”
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| Quote: Hullrealist "My mate around the club has said that as far as he’s aware griffin said he felt that that saint fans were influencing Kendall too much and when he got yellow he said something around “loving joke”'"
If the charge is questioning Kendal’s integrity and he was called a cheat or bent I’d tend to agree. However if Griffin has said along the of ‘lovin joke’ about the decision then my word the MRP are going to doing overtime from now on. Nearly every player when a decision goes against them utters the same sort of response.
Kendal is there to officiate by carrying out the rules and keep things from getting out of hand. In the first 40 mins his performance was certainly questionable as the Fash decision alone shows with the MRP proving both Kendal and the official to have got it wrong.
Kendals has an arrogance about him and for someone who apparently played the game has little respect himself for players and seems power goes to his head.
Yes Griffin should have known better and kept quiet but Kendal should have also have the ability to speak with a player to defuse rather escalate situations. I think Kendal arrogance got the better of him with the speed of the red less than 4 seconds after the yellow when the player in question is walking away.
For me Kendal shows he has t the personality or ability to handle this sort of situation or occasion.
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