To be fair, the defensive structure is pretty sound, it's the players mentality, character and professional pride that has resulted in the blowout scores

It's funny when Hodgson says a lot of the time he leaves it to the players he's clueless. Yet all I hear from players and coaches from St Helens Wigan and now Leeds is getting the players to play what's in front of them. Maybe ATM we haven't the players?

The difference is though that St’s, Wigan and Leeds (pre Agar and now under Smith) had systems in place that was ingrained in to them which every player knew and it was a base to play from. They then play off the cuff stuff which made them even more of a threat. We can’t do that as we appear to have little if any structure to how we play at all and why we’ve looked like a disorganised rabble too many times.
Maybe some of it is to do with the players but that’s also the job of a head coach to get the systems and structures in place and followed, to be fair he’s been here 2 seasons now and had time enough to give the team some form of identity but it’s sadly lacking

The problem is . 20 yards from the oppositions tryline, we are clueless, we have Houghton at dummy half, throwing his hands up, as if to say ,"What are we going to do?", we have no dummy runners, no players running off the ball., Saints can play what's in front of them, but their fundamental,of players running good lines, creates the space, that is basic coaching, which is perfected with repetitive drills.
Why we can't run a few set plays , or do something different, from an ex attacking fullback,now as a First team Manager is bewildering...

to be fair,having many players out and changing positions doesnt help.the last few weeks we have had 10,12 14 players out each game.notice last week both wigan and sts had a lot of players out,rested.[nice if you can].both got beat against poor opposition.

If he stays with us then Jake Connor would be my captain but I can't see why he'd want to be here playing with this tripe. He should be looking to move to a big club who challenge for trophies.and right now Hull FC ain't one of those.

Wont be popular but I think we should cash in on Connor if we can get some money for him before next season

Was just about to say I'd cash in on him now and use any transfer fee to go on a coach.
As brilliant as Jake is, a good coach would be so much better for us overall.

Problem is, if he goes and with Trueman potentially out for the start of the season, who would play at halfback.

Would definitely have to use our last quota spot on a halfback.

I'd like to think if we got the right coaching staff in place they would be able to help improve the kids like McNamara and Hookem to a point where they are good enough to cope better with injuries to any halves. Even our first choice halves this year look like they don't have a clue what's going on.

Same, his ego is too big and he has isn't running anywhere. Can't carry a trick pony to lay a few assists on against Leigh. We need players who do it every week and against the top4 sides.

I’d cash in on Connor if they invested the money in a proven coach who will sort out the shambles once and for all.

Wouldn't blame jake if he wanted to leave but I'd get an experienced coach in and build a team around jake . We haven't got anyone remotely as good as jake in the club or coming in so losing jake and we would still be 9/10th in the league even with a change of coach

I don't think we have anyone at the club who could do the job .

Cash in on jake brilliant

Let's just go all out for relegation