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| Quote: Dave K. "The most annoying thing for me is the fans on twitter, Facebook and on here who moan about the club , the coach and the merger but don't attend and give the club the money that they need to compete with the likes of Leeds. I have no problem with the true fans like Jake, Mrs B and Wilf have a good old moan, but those who don't go or don't give the club money don't deserve this right.'"
And what would you say was the minimum amount of money someone has to spend before you magnanimously grant them the right to have an opinion?
Deary me.
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "If you can afford it you go it really is that simple, some people over scrutinise things on here, if your a die hard & have the finances you turn up, albeit it gets you mad from time to time, but it's in your blood from a young age.'"
Not any more
There's far more competition for people's money now.
The clubs in the entertainment industry and are charging top dollar to attend games
People will certainly be picking and choosing even more next season.
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| Quote: Sebasteeno "I hear this constantly from you Dave and i know who your directing it at.
Then it's simple don't go, why stress yourself out moaning & complaining till your blue in the face, I'm not just on about you but any person that's not happy & doesn't enjoy the game/club no more, we never had these boards to post on 20 years plus ago, so what did we do then? We got on with it & turned up, AP is doing the best he can, we could have a complete new team/coaching staff there's nothing to say it would 100% change.
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "The game itself has gone stale, 10-15 years ago it was all relatively new, summer rugby nice shirts decent grounds, marketing was good, fireworks, mascots, big signings were over here, people just don't want or can't afford to shell out ex-amounts of money to go watch something that doesn't entertain them no more. I love the club & the game it's my addiction. So have no choice.'"
I agree there's a game-wide problem. I actually think the sport is dying in this country. I think we could have held onto crowds better than most if our fan base wasn't so disillusioned, though.
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| Quote: carl_spackler "I agree there's a game-wide problem. I actually think the sport is dying in this country. I think we could have held onto crowds better than most if our fan base wasn't so disillusioned, though.'"
It's the case of if you do something that much it becomes stale & bores you, we do massively over scrutinise every move the club or players or staff do, it's like out of people moan/knock you start to believe it yourself.
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| I used to go to the games every week (180 mile round trip) until a year or so ago, then we started picking and choosing games...and this year I've mainly stuck to Sky and been to about 5 games I think...for me the excitement has completely gone. I used to be excited all week about the upcoming game and used to be proud to talk about supporting Hull...now I can't seem to get excited if we win and I'm not too fussed if we lose...apart from the embarrassment in front of my friends if it's a sky game!
For me, the ambition has gone from both the fans and the club. Recruitment wise, we seem to go for either average unknowns e.g Michaels, Talanoa, Rankin, Tumivave (could turn out to be good, but I'll admit I dont know anything of him), Byrne, Cusack, Maiava etc etc or marquee players / ageing players that are available at the right time..e.g Pryce, Long, Berrigan, Sing and Ellis to an extent. We seem to sign players based on the fact that they're available and trying to make them fit in the team, rather than planning a signing out. Compare our recruitment to Leeds, Wigan and Saints and think how few signings they make, but how well planned they are, e.g Cuthbertson, Galloway...as they know they're going to lose Peacock and Leuluai at the end of the season and so plan accordingly. We sign Tumivave and people don't know whether he will be a stand-off, winger or centre...and I'm not sure the club 100% do either! Once we sign these players, Hull fans being the proud bunch they are will defend each of the signings and say that they add something to the team, if half of our squad played for any other team....we wouldn't rate them as highly as we do.
I struggle to motivate myself to go to games, and when I do I've found them boring sadly...gone are the exciting days from 2003 - 2007 where we had the likes of Barnett, Swain, Best, Kearney, Blacklock etc, even Jamie Thackray, Carvell, Dowes and King used to really run at the line with power and take large run-ups, compare that now to a lot of our players who, whilst they graft and tackle...have lost the excitement factor, which is reflected in the declining attendances and cheering from the crowds.
Rugby league isn't cheap anymore, £23 to watch the game, along with £20 petrol, food and drinks, adds up to around £60 a time...which as people have said is a lot of money each week to go and be bored.
I would like to have the same level of interest as I did a few years ago, but with the pattern of two or three wins followed by two or three losses, endless spin from the club and constantly focusing on "next year" rather than focusing on now, I am finding it difficult to maintain my interest in Hull FC, and can't see it changing anytime soon. Feel free to call me not a true fan but they're just my feelings of the current situation!
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "It's the case of if you do something that much it becomes stale & bores you, we do massively over scrutinise every move the club or players or staff do, it's like out of people moan/knock you start to believe it yourself.'"
Sorry, I've read that 3 times and I'm still not sure what you're saying & getting at.
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| Just needs re marketing from our clubs perspective to keep the ready to walk away fans to stay, our fans over scrutinise every thing that goes on, even the good things the club are trying to do, & if people call something constantly well others start to jump onboard.
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "Just needs re marketing from our clubs perspective to keep the ready to walk away fans to stay, our fans over scrutinise every thing that goes on, even the good things the club are trying to do, & if people call something constantly well others start to jump onboard.'"
You think people are walking away because the club is not marketed in the right way and other fans over-scrutinise and criticise, is that it?
If so, then I'm afraid I think you're way off. I think you'd be better off thinking about why people feel the need to call things, it's not like they're doing so unjustly and people are jumping on board blindly. There's been a growing unrest that has been fed for several years by poor results, poor performances, false promises of change, and a feeling of being taken for granted by those in charge.
As for the good things about the club, what is currently the single best thing about Hull FC at the moment, the one thing that is showing some degree of success? The 19s side from an academy that is now going to be restructured to be cheaper. The same 19s side that Pearson has been banging on about since it was 15-year-olds playing 16s at the start of his tenure. This 'special crop' as he put it, that was to be nurtured and show the way the future of the club lay, will now be the last Hull FC under 19s side, because it's too expensive and he appears to have shifted his ideology from being about youth to preferring to bring in a big name or 2 from the NRL.
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "Then it's simple don't go, why stress yourself out moaning & complaining till your blue in the face, I'm not just on about you but any person that's not happy & doesn't enjoy the game/club no more, we never had these boards to post on 20 years plus ago, so what did we do then? We got on with it & turned up, AP is doing the best he can, we could have a complete new team/coaching staff there's nothing to say it would 100% change.'"
Because people care. We bitch and moan because we care about our club.
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| Interesting theory about the product on the pitch not being 'entertaining'. I'm pretty sure Rovers fans have been royally entertained this year, but look where it's got them?
The club rode on the crest of a wave from moving in to the new stadium, to a relatively successful period from 2003-2007. That dwindled under Agar and the following years have seen a steady flow away from the club of the bandwaggoners (for want of a better word). I think it's finally levelling out and we'll struggle to get those people back until we have another period of doing well!
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "Then it's simple don't go, why stress yourself out moaning & complaining till your blue in the face, I'm not just on about you but any person that's not happy & doesn't enjoy the game/club no more, we never had these boards to post on 20 years plus ago, so what did we do then? We got on with it & turned up, AP is doing the best he can, we could have a complete new team/coaching staff there's nothing to say it would 100% change.'"
Utter, utter tripe
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