Your not wrong.

Massive own goal for me.

Coach killer if the unthinkable happens Monday.

It's not unthinkable. Far from it.

so Miller gets time because he's just a very well paid baby but the new coach gets a few games and gets slagged. AP will give Radford time hopefully and in particular he will also give motu tony time to reshape the squad. Miller was given chances last year and is being given chances this year. It's not a bloody day nursery he either takes his chance or loses out. can't say fairer than that.

As long as he gets a fair crack of the whip, there'll be no complaints from me.

Exactly how I saw it too. They knew if you get on top in the props and subsequently rush Westerman you can shut us down. They did it very well.

that's how good our halfs must be if westside is the only threat they had to worry about.

What we should have done is started using the short inside ball off the first receiver with plenty of support through the middle and gone inside their umbrella/rush. We need guys to play what's in front of them rather than stick to rigid plans that aren't working. I include the halves in that but also Houghton. A good playmaker and leader who can make those changes on the run would be more than welcome.

What do you want our halves to do without the ball?

It didn’t help Miller last season, playing alongside Holdsworth. He wasn’t given the best of opportunities during the preseason games. He has had 3 ‘decent’ games and 1 very poor game so far this season.

If an elusive experienced quality 7 became available, then sure we ought to go for him, but in the meantime we may have to keep our hopes in Miller for the short and medium term, and try to get the best out of him.

create something when they have got it...not run like a crab &.get players smashed!

Trust me I hope he kills it in SL but I am not tied into any players at all and will call every game as I see it. If Miller makes it I'll be chuffed to bits but he is now playing first grade and it is these games - not some games sometime in the future - that will determine his fate. It seems pretty straightforward to me.

What were the posession stats last night? Did we have significantly less ball?

Agreed. We don't have the luxury of giving well paid players a season or two in the first team to see if they are any good. We won't go down this year but finishing outside the 8 next year would be a disaster

I am not tied into any players either, but what do we do (who else do we have) if Horne or Rankin gets a lengthy injury?

I don’t care how “pretty straightforward” it is to you, what do you have to offer that is constructive with what we now have.

Horne, Miller, or Rankin, Miller is far better than bringing Azza into the halves, but if we have killed off Miller (because of impatience) then we may only be left with Azza in the halves.