Let's forget about Rovers. It was 2 points gained if not deserved. However we should be concentrating on how we perform against big clubs not little ones. We will need to play a damned sight better on Friday to get anything out of Leeds.

Rovers always raise their game for the derby, they always see themselves as the underdogs.

We don't handle the pressure well and there seems to be more of it when at the KC/Magic weekend for some reason. We seem to play better at their place as the away side.

I actually think it's more a case of us not being able to cope with being the favourites and the opposition getting into our faces. We are pretty good at getting into the faces of teams that maybe should be beating us on paper (see Warrington last week, the recent Wigan game and I suspect we'll take it to Leeds on Friday). However we've struggled when teams get into us (Rovers twice, Widnes away, and unconvincing performances at Salford/London), we have to realise that teams just won't roll over and they need to be be up for these challenges.

after 8 weeks of good to exceptional performances we had a day when our attack misfired but our defence was as good as ever, think we may be getting carried away a bit, maybe need to wait till after the Leeds game which bear in mind we will be without Horne who has been on fire this season, just had a bad day on Saturday.

Bit of a myth this one, last year we out-enthused and performed Rovers in all three derby and would have won them all if it wasn't for poor reffing and a bad spell.

First derby we were poor, but we didn't have the team and Gentle got his selection wrong.

Last game, we weren't as bad as people are making out, I watched it again, not great first half, but still made 3 good scoring opportunities but was let down by poor handling. 2nd half we dominated and had 3/4 good scoring chances, but once again last pass options were poor. On another day we those passes stick and we win easy. Think Rovers only had 3 chances to score and they took them all, our defence was pretty strong throughout the game also.

I actually thought our defence was quite sloppy for the most part, but we were dragged out of the mire by some decent goal line defence.

I thought they made far too much ground, far too easily. Our line speed seemed quite poor, we fell off a fair few first tackles and we consistently failed to prevent the offload. If we defend like that against Leeds, they will have the attacking prowess to make us pay.

"Defend" like that against L**ds and they'll stick 40+ on us.

I think we try to play down the importance of these games because of the expectation that we should win and the extra pressure in a derby that creates. We looked OK after the 40/20 and try but when Hall intercepted we got nervy and tried too hard. KR as underdogs feed off that - and played well tbf. But that's what derbies are about isn't it?

But the thing is, it clearly isn't the same as any other match. Regardless of whether or not we want to view it that wat or think it deserves to treated different, the opposition are making it so. In that sense we should prepare for Rovers differently in the same way that every team should be prepared for slightly differently. I'm not saying we should make winning those 3 games the priority of our season, but we should still be aiming to win them as we should all games, and Rovers' increased intensity should be something we make ourselves ready for in the same way as we would, say, Brough/Sinfield's kicking games, Tomkins' kick returns, or Warrington's offloading. It's a facet of our opponent's game that we seem to be underestimating/struggling to handle sometimes.

......you are simply ace

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