I don't think they are the same though, I think Dobbo offers more to a team, he plays structured and as we know can kick 40/20s for fun and can kick goals. Some-one mentioned Chase is class as the players don't know what he is going to do, I still have visions of him passing Tickle a murder ball in the International, the problem is even his team mates don't know what he will do, the evidence is that he cannot play structured rugby and his try assists at International were nothing to shout about, this is my concern but like mentioned I would take him as he is a better option than what we presently have, although for the record I believe Holdsworth will prove to be a better signing than him if we get him.

Not as nonsensical as claiming Chase is class , gather you did not watch the Internationals then, or fell asleep last time we played against Cas,

Are we joining the Aviva Premiership?

I doubt Gentle will say go out there and do what you like, we play structured rugby and Chase will have to fit into that. It will be interesting to say the least if we sign him, but hopefully the try assists will keep coming

But allowing Chase the freedom to do things off the cuff alongside structure brought around by Holdsworth could be great. Houghton has developed his kicking game well over the years, and with Heremaia as well, we have plenty of options for a kicking game.

It could be and hopefully will be if he signs, Chase will hopefully understand we are not a one man team and we have quality across the park.

So open with that then, not that their try assists are on par (which is clearly false) and that Chase is just a show pony (which is just as levellable at Dobson). As it happens I still disagree with you about Dobson over Chase, but at least we can now agree to disagree on a matter of opinion rather than just going back and forward about the holes in logic/untruths in your argument.

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Just to be clear your claiming the current Man of Steel (an award voted for by his peers) isn't actually very good at all because he had one poor game against us and didn't perform well against the best players in the world in a system he was unfamiliar with whilst surrounded by players he'd never played with before?

Really?

Even though Gentle's background is from a club who take exactly that approach a lot of the time?

Neither of us really know which way he'll go, but both are at least as likely as each other. The fact that we are so keen on Chase combined with Gentle's background at Wests may even indicate us moving to a less structured system, though.

Where did I say he was not good ?

You claimed he is class, I would argue he is not but like mentioned he has some class touches. I have heard it all now surronded by players he had never played with before, you do know he played more than one international and trained before the games don't you ?