totally agree but dont think a physio or a dedicated team doctor can do much when like my son they come on from nowhere.he could be sat having a coffee with me one minute the next he will need to use his inhaler.

agree there is ways of preventing these things majority of the time.My son uses a preventer every day which does keep it at bay majority of the time,but maybe sam is getting a cold or feeling a bit unwell,so like you i believe it was the correct decision. It isnt like its affecting him every game so i reckon the club staff are dealing with sams ashtma in the correct way.

But it's not 10 pages of rejoicing. Had it not been hijacked it would probably have been 2/3.

Who said it was 10 pages of rejoicing? You only see what you want to see. Open your eyes once in a while

Like i said yesterday i came away from the game happy with the performance, and i can count on one hand the games i have come away happy from in the last 2 seasons (2010-2011). Not a world beating performance by any stretch of the imagination but there was a lot more good points in the game than bad points.

We still look dodgy when a team ships the ball wide and Wigan could well have scored a few more if it had not been for some inspired defence by certain individuals at the most opportune time. The kicking was poor for the majority of the game but we did manage a few decent ones.

Wigan were definitely under strength yesterday and we SHOULD have beaten them, but confidence is a big factor in sport as well and our confidence is probably pretty low. However a performance like that can sometimes do wonders for a team and give them that self belief they may be lacking.

I also think that the crowd got behind the team a hell of a lot more than normal and that will have also given the players a boost.

Yes we should have won it in the end, but IF!!! the team can build on that performance and improve on it then we may finally see some light at the end of what seems to be a long and very dark tunnel.

If tickle had kicked the goal it would have been a draw wouldn't it ?

Always seems to be our right hand side too!!!

I thought the atmosphere,was fantastic,with everyone shouting and singing all through the game,and that certainly helped the players,because they seemed to thrive off it.For his 1st game,with no pre-season,i thought Phelps,had a super game,nothing startling,but looked solid,and seemed to enjoy encouraging his team-mates.Obst and Horne looked like they are starting to gel quite well together(though i still expect Long to walk straight back in to the team,right or wrong!!).Overall,i enjoyed the game,and was gutted when tickle missed the penalty,as a draw,would have been well deserved.I just hope we can put in a similar performance against wakey on friday.

Yep. But there's a big difference between drawing with the champions at their own ground, and losing against them like most will.

Appears the fans who made it had a great day and enjoyed watching the boys...the bottom line is though we lost and got zilch from the game...what is that now 1 win from the last 4 games and, 4 wins from the last 13 games ?

Any other team yesterday,and we would have won.as for the games at the end of last season,they dont matter anymore!!!

Sorry Jimmy they do, it is very clear we have a problem if we have only won 4 out of the last 13 games mate...and things have clearly not improved, 1 out of 4 is very poor, nearly winning is not enough in this game.

Just to be accurate, we're 1 from 5 this season. Rovers, Leeds, Hudds, Crusaders, Wigan.

Eyes wide open sonny -''10 page thread rejoicing the fact that we've seen effort and commitment''.

Without trawling the whole 12 pages would I be right in saying that everyone should be proud of the effort of every player who played on Sunday and maybe the players are pushing themselves that little bit further? But in the scheme of things long term we are in the same situation as after the Hudds game?

Extreme myopia dad