Poor stats from masi again, bit surprised though, sounded like he had a good game

I thought he players well, brought an offload game. His defence us brilliant, think he will just keep getting better and better.

Nah, I am ok with that. I think we need to accept that he is never going to be a one man wrecking crew, but he is a very solid tackler, he makes minimal errors and has a presence which attracts defenders. If he can up his work rate (10 carries is fine) and work on his offload game (really good one led to Tuimavave scoring yesterday) then he can be a useful player.

I still think he runs too upright into contact though. He is a tall guy anyway, so the way he runs makes him too easy to stand up and drive back. Needs to lower his shoulders into the collision and then you might find that his leg drive will get him a lot more metres after contact.

this is much more consistent. i don't think it is the metres per carry thats the issue, it is the errors and penalties conceded giving the opposition easy metres. Also looks like everyone shared the work this time rather than a couple of them only doing 3 or 4 carries as in the last game. Knock similar stats out to those every week and put bowden and taylor in there and we will be fine

Fantastic win, great effort all round, well done LR and the team for achieving a very rare victory against Wigan on their home soil.

As far as I can tell, these are all our league victories against Wigan away between 1895 and 2015.

Sat 7 Dec 1895 Hull Home Lost 00-03
Sat 31 Jan 1903 Hull Home Lost 02-03
Wed 12 Apr 1905 Hull Home Lost 03-10
Sat 20 Sep 1919 Hull Home Lost 05-11
Sat 4 Nov 1922 Hull Home Lost 09-10
Sun 25 Oct 1981 Hull Home Lost 05-18
Wed 11 Jan 1989 Hull Home Lost 20-35
Sun 6 Sep 1992 Hull Home Lost 13-14
Fri 5 Apr 2002 Hull FC Home Lost 18-20
Fri 10 Jun 2005 Hull FC Home Lost 24-28
Fri 30 Aug 2013 Hull FC Home Lost 33-34

Not many I'm afraid, I knew they were few and far between, but the odds seem to have been stacked against us whatever team we may have had. None in the 1950's for example.

Some of the gaps will be when we didn't play them at all, fixtures were often regionalised in the dim and distant past.

(Roughly 61 Wigan home wins during the same period.)

We won there in 2016 (Jamie Shaul sealed it with a long range try), and 2017 as well (Kelly scored that try where he pinballed off 5 or 6 defenders). It's actually not a bad hunting ground for us in recent times.

He did have a good game and a couple of decent offloads too.
Stats dont always tell the story.

Penalty count sounds good but when 50% of your penalties result in tries for the opposition then its costly.
The number times we pin the oppositon in their twenty with good defence then give away a stupid penalty to relieve all the pressure and give them a leg upfield.

BIT harsh on the lad to single him out. On a per carry basis all of the forwards were only picking up about 5 yards a go. Show what Good line speed wigan had.

So..
Golden point practised in the week
Ellis selected and delivers (in face of derision)
Unknown winger identified and brought through to make 2 try debut
Hull avoid arm wrestle when missing forwards, use offloading game plan
None of the tries from kicks, all worked

Does Radford deserve any credit for the above?

Absolutely. The really re-assuring thing is the squad all seem together & massively motivated. With 3 front line props, Hadley, Albie & maybe Talanoa all to return in the next few weeks we could go on a bit of a winning run, be nice to be back in the top 5 soonest.

I watched from 1946 until 1959 when I left Hull and because of regionalisation cannot remember too many Wigan games being played in that period against either Hull or Rovers. Stretching my memory I only remember 1 in the late 40's when Wigan played Rovers. Went with my dad and the match was memorable for the incident in the last minutes when Wigan,behind by 1 point, were awarded a penalty for a voluntary tackle in the corner close to the Rovers line and kicked the goal to win.

Not seen too many penalties for voluntary tackles since!

Here are the Wigan results during that period...… Quote: " Sat 5 Oct 1946 Hull Kingston Rovers Home Won 50-02 Sat 24 May 1947 Hull Kingston Rovers Away Won 17-08 Sat 3 May 1952 Championship Play Offs SF wigan.rlfans.com/readarticle.php?article_id=2172

Here are the Wigan results during that period...… Quote: " Sat 5 Oct 1946 Hull Kingston Rovers Home Won 50-02 Sat 24 May 1947 Hull Kingston Rovers Away Won 17-08 Sat 3 May 1952 Championship Play Offs SF wigan.rlfans.com/readarticle.php?article_id=2172