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| Quote downtheante="downtheante"Smith and Briscoe were not the problem imo - it was McGuire - he was shocking. The Aussies waltzed through him on that right hand side and there was little or nothing Smith and Briscoe could do to rescue the situation. Going forward he was even worse. I'd rather see Paul Cooke out there than him - and I'm not joking.'"
McGuire was England's worst player by some distance, and he was certainly at fault for those tries. Smith also shares the blame IMO for coming inside, leaving his winger stranded and facing multiple overlaps time and time again.
Wasn't that impressed with Peacock defending on that side either, although to be fair he's not a second rower and wouldn't be comfortable defending in that position.
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| so much for the world champs players being world class,simple mistakes cost simple tries.
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| Quote Bighead="Bighead"dont just blame lee smith. there were 10 players stood in a huddle for the entire game, the wingers and full back were just left stood alone on the edges. whoever decided that against australia you only need to defend a third of the pitch is to blame for the barage of tries down the centre/ second row chanels'"
dead right
england were beat before the game started
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| smith woz wrong in taking tom off as it woz his old players that made the mistakes,very poor decision
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| poor lad was made a scapegoat
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"Personally, I think Smith was kind in taking Briscoe off. He was getting mullered in that corner. I wouldn't have liked to have seen the lad's confidence get shattered and that's important IMO.
I agree that Smith was useless, btw.
Spot on - keeping Briscoe's confidence intact was more important - his centre went missing when there was work to be done (like tackling Inglis)and didn't give him a decent pass in 40 minutes - he'll be back better for the experience
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| couldnt understand why england didnt play there normal game in the 1st half by putting up high balls or sticking a low ball through as they score plenty of tries week in week out in SL,instead they try the batter em up the middle which obviously didnt work for at least 3 repeat sets,i think a back to the norm should apply for the kiwi's and also use the wingers too. Just my opinion ov course 
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| Although Australia was great in the first half we was making it easy for them by dropping the ball in our own half for most of the half.
Mcquire once again proved hes not good enough in internationals his kicking game was awful and Aussies was walking through him like he wasnt there.
Eastmond changed the game IMO his kicking game was great and when he ran at the Aussies they couldnt handle him and HAS to start next week
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| Quote jeronimo="jeronimo"poor lad was made a scapegoat'"
He certainly was and I can now seeing missing the Kiwi game. I just hope it doesnt hurt the young lads confidence too much !
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| Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"Smith seems to be hanging Briscoe out to dry, constantly coming in and leaving him with exposed.
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i dont think i have ever seen a game were the winger has played a full half without a centre!!!!!!! lee smith leaving tom to rot on the wing
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| Quote MR BOJANGLES="MR BOJANGLES"He certainly was and I can now seeing missing the Kiwi game. I just hope it doesnt hurt the young lads confidence too much !'"
What doesnt kill you makes you stronger and I fully expect a fired up Tom Briscoe to prove a few doubters wrong next season. I have no doubts he will be an international player for years to come.
I agree Smith will not pick him against the Kiwis I would imagine Lee Smith will get wing spot (which he will do OK), but after the first half defensive no show he can count himself a lucky boy.
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| Be interested to see if Tom was injured/ill from what a previous poster has said about him throwing up before half time.
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