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Quote: Big Dave T "I'd wait 5 or 6 years and see how he performs before saying that. If he guides us to a SL grand final win his fee will be worth every penny.'"


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Think he'll be a good signing for you, he's a good player, not bad kicker, and gets through a lot of work in attack and defence.

Never quite reached his full potential at Cas, and has had a lot of off field problems, which led to Cas dropping him for disciplinary reasons earlier this year, think the writing was on the wall from then.

If you can get his off the field behaviour sorted (he really likes a beer) will be really good signing for you.

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Quote: Hoffmiester "If you can get his off the field behaviour sorted (he really likes a beer) will be really good signing for you.'"


unfortold joy!

we have such a record with problem players

I hope this doesn't bite us on the bum!

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Ogre and Fitz will sort that just ask our full back! icon_lol.gif

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Good luck with Joe, he is at a crossroad in his career and I just hope he takes the right turn.

I would rather see him in a Hull shirt than any other (after the mighty black & amber of course.) If you can get him back to what he is capable of its a bargain.

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Quote: Big Dave T "I'd wait 5 or 6 years and see how he performs before saying that. If he guides us to a SL grand final win his fee will be worth every penny.'"



So your pinning your future hopes on him?? d040.gif

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Quote: The Dentist Wilf "Ogre and Fitz will sort that just ask our full back!
I think the way we have dealt with/continue to deal with Tansey could be key to whether or not we see Westerman (and any others) toe the line. He won't have far to look to see what the consequences of any off-field antics are, so hopefully we'll sort both of them out at the same time. Alternatively, if Tansey still doesn't behave, getting shut of him will prove a big point so that others can learn from his mistakes.

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Quote: carl_spackler "I think the way we have dealt with/continue to deal with Tansey could be key to whether or not we see Westerman (and any others) toe the line. He won't have far to look to see what the consequences of any off-field antics are, so hopefully we'll sort both of them out at the same time. Alternatively, if Tansey still doesn't behave, getting shut of him will prove a big point so that others can learn from his mistakes.'"

Very pertinent point, fully agree.

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Quote: Brasil Fan "Agreed. 9/11, Global warming and the declining bee poulation are all his fault!
On a more serious Note. Good to see the club getting a youg talented player ona long contract. Hope he does manage to learn from Fitz while they train and play together'"



What utter TOSH, you know it can only have been Blacklocks fault icon_lol.gif

Think if Westerman is willing to work hard and learn from Fitzy etc he could well be a better signing than first thought.

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Great addition to the squad . A ball playing No13 from Cas ! The last one we signed from them went rather well.
He has a long way to go to compare with knocker though!
He can also cover at 6 if needed.
I`m sure some of our senior players will help him behave.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "I think the way we have dealt with/continue to deal with Tansey could be key to whether or not we see Westerman (and any others) toe the line. He won't have far to look to see what the consequences of any off-field antics are, so hopefully we'll sort both of them out at the same time. Alternatively, if Tansey still doesn't behave, getting shut of him will prove a big point so that others can learn from his mistakes.'"

Very pertinent point, fully agree.'"


Agreed.

Key point for me is the bit in bold.

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A few questions.

1) how do we end up signing a player for that amount which was at the club as junior ? For those in the know.

2) if we had £150,000 to spend on a transfer fee why wasn't it on an area we needed improvement on.

3) Is Westerman worth that amount considering he was out of contract at the end of the season ?

I'm a bit underwhelmed overall,I like westerman as a player but am very unsure on the amount it has cost us and whether he was a signing we needed.

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A good signing for me. Good player (just how good we will find out in the coming year or so), young and english. It's nice to see we're building for the future and taking the long view.

People saying we don't need to strengthen the backrow, what about when Fitz leaves? Plus we're short of props which suggest we'll have to move a SR up to prop which then leaves our SR light. Also if we'd waited until he was available on a free you can pretty much guarantee he'd have gone elsewhere.

Whether he is worth our rumoured fee, only time will tell. If he fails to live up to expectations then Cas will be laughing but if he fulfils his undoubted potential then it'll look like a bargain. Either way it's too early to pass judgement IMO.

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Quote: pmarrow "A few questions.

1) how do we end up signing a player for that amount which was at the club as junior ? For those in the know.'"


Well at times its who's better. For instance Joe could of been off form for a few weeks at youth level an maybe another player was in form an overtook him in terms of rank in the side the youth coaches have to make very difficult decisions and maybe he wasnt showing what the coaches wanted at that time.

Im chuffed we've signed him had a mediocre season but so did cas. The lads only 20 and has the world at his feet and like he said he's looking forward to working with fitz n ogre so maybe he's ready to really put his heart and soul into the FC cause.

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Quote: Codhead13 "So your pinning your future hopes on him??
Did you go to school? Re-read what i wrote. I said Westerman should be judged on his performances over the next 5-6 years to see ifhe is worth his money. How is that difficult to understand?

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