It’s not an over reaction, merely a statement that everyone has a reason to feel as they do, I stated mine. Mrs. B did belittle Chris71 for stating he was at his lowest for 40 years. Disagreement doesn’t include belittlement. Funny you replied and not Coffee Woman.

It's not a so-called top 4. Both in terms of finances and SL achievements (GF appearances and wins) they are the top 4. My feeling is not one of the lowest in decades, more that we are roughly where I expected to be in the league, so fairly ambivalent. But I do feel a little optimism that our pack, cited by many including me as a reason we wouldn't challenge this year, will be better next.

All true and I seem to remember you telling a former CEO that in a salary capped sport that the coach is the differentiator but currently were not differentiated from our peers

ComeOnYouUll belittled Chris71 initially, funnily enough Barista followed up with the same sentiments not long after.

Strange isn't it

Correct. We're in the pack with our financial peers.

Different times, different feelings. At that time in the club’s history, I was very much upbeat, knowing that we would survive. Unlike now when all I can see is dross and nothing changing. I can’t see anything other than that with the incumbent coach. From any financial aspect, I see us up there with best but you just carry on telling us how it is and not deal with what’s posted.

So Radford not a good coach then? Average at best? Are salford one of our financial peers?

Nobody on here gets more abuse than Mrs Barista. I note that you resort to name calling whilst complaining about people being belittled.

I wasn't upbeat when we were hours from extinction - the Gateshead news came completely out of the blue for me. You see us up there with the best financially - I don't agree based on published accounts, relative owner wealth etc. i don't think anyone has yet examined the fact that in terms of dominance in the SL era there are 4 top clubs (Bradford now not being in the top tier), and these 4 clubs are the only ones that need to file full accounts due to their size (turnover, assets, employees). We are not in this group.

He's done well to win back to back Challenge Cups, certainly. Salford aren't a peer, no. We are underperforming vs them, but overperforming vs Leeds.

I used “Coffee Woman” because I’d already referred to her as “Mrs B” in the post and didn’t want to use the same name in context. Your defence of MRS. BARISTA is becoming boring and a bit of a tell tale sign. No name calling by me intended.

I'm pretty sure its Leeds underperforming against the rest of sl rather than anything were doing

Very true. It's almost like I'm not permitted to feel OK with where we are, relative to other times at the club and in the context of relative resources at others. That's alright. I'm choosing to have a much better time of it than everyone else.