It’s and could have beens
All nonsense

Connor wouldn’t have been at 6 and played for England if Sneyd and Kelly we’re fit
Injuries are normal
In 2016 we had barely any and guess what ?
We blow the easiest chance of a Treble

Last night we had 7 out of the first choice 17 missing, that's almost half of those who would be playing. Despite that we really could have won had those on the pitch performed at even a half decent level. Is that progress or does it indicate that some of those players just aren't up to it?

If you look at the younger players

fash
masi
downs
logan
miloudi
scott

How many of those do you see developing into top SL players or even regular SL level starters?

Our attacking structures are poor - do we play like leeds under mcdermott? Too off the cuff with not enough structure or is it just because our main organiser isn't on the pitch (sneyd)

Defensively we aren't as aggressive as some teams. We seem to have a static defensive line and give away too many metres easily. Our goal line defense isn't good enough, our wingers constantly jamb in creating easy tries out wide and our compressed defense doesn't spread quickly enough creating space on the outside.

We still don't have a mindset of backing up meaning breaks invariably don't turn into tries and our passing is woefully slow and easy to read what we are doing.

Plenty to fix up IMO but you really can't judge this season too harshly given the long and numerous injuries to key players. If we finish the season in 5th it will have been a reasonable achievement IMO.

And for those amongst us saying about cas and their heroic performances - what happened to them last weekend?

Wont get away with injuries in the modern day, teams are miles fitter.

We got battered by a very good Catalans team on the day. That's the thing with injuries, the young players coming in cannot replace the injured players on a consistent basis.

As an outsider looking in, Hull have had a terrible time with injuries this season, not just numbers but key players. I think you should cut the team some slack, 5th is a good position all things considered and you still have a shot at the 4, especially if you can get some key players back.

We had plenty of injuries when we played Saints away in the cup but put in a great performance that day.

That was because we had the right attitude and commitment.

Last night both attitude and commitment were seriously lacking.

Our defensive line was all over the place and the gaps were alarming at times. Massive difference in how Huddersfield defended their line and how we did.

In attack players were passing for the sake of it and not drawing the opposition to them.

We can do it but our attitude has to be right. Last night it was way off.

Disappointing result but not surprised considering the injuries we have. Also players playing with injuries eg Taylor, Mini, Kelly & Carlos doesn't help. Yet again a player on benefit (Danny) has a poor season relative to norm. The youngsters coming in can do a job to a point but not every week. Not having reserve system does not help with their development. I know all teams have injuries but we have had so many long term key players out this year. We were lucky last 2 years injury wise and that is the difference. Look whats happened to Leeds since loosing Watkins. Still in with a chance of GF but its getting slim

Have a different opinion, that's fine, but enough of the name calling please.

It’s difficult for us at present, two very flat performances by the boys, we need some troops back to freshen us up, our system worked with Scott Taylor Houghton Watts, with Bowden Green coming of the bench, the way it’s panning out without Liam and Josh our go forward has diminished, consequently Houghtons running game has disappeared, were out of sync, and without replacing Watts with like for like, we will struggle, pretty abject display by our top players, and the criticism of young lads is unnecessary, they are also part of our mistimed system, and will struggle accordingly. Wouldn’t be surprised to do Saints next, it’s time for good fans to stick together and support the boys. We were poor last night, It’s that type of season.

Less of the name calling please.

And again......

Losing interest in super league to be honest , the quality of teams is poor , refereeing poor , coaching poor , entertainment , not very. Watched the melbourne v st George game , both had 6 of they best players out on origin duty, still , what a high quality entertaining game , commentary class, refs you don't even notice , the game is like watching a different sport to what super league dishes up. Both these teams would put 50 past us comfortably in a meaningful game at this stage of the season

Logan's development was probably hampered more by the serious injuries he sustained. You mention on another post that you feel Logan did not get a decent chance? He was our starting Centre in 2016 until his major injury. And injury which was so long lasting that he missed the best part of 2 seasons.


Fash has been solid and reliable, not excellent. He doesn't break tackles and does bend the line often enough.


You mentioned stunting of development on many occasions on several threads. How do you expect to achieve development and also have a side with a sustained challenge for the honours? Radford was quoted on RH about not wanting to throw Cameron Scott in for too many games too early in his career, which is the right thing to do.

No, its really not disrespectful at all. Its a dig at those who voted.

The MOM vote was not doubt influenced by Phil Clarkes frequent glowing comments about Miloudi.

All of the players put their hands up, the effort and commitment is never in question.


Can you really say Miloudi was a deserved MOM when on four occasions he cost us possession, three of which were when in scoring opportunities.


Radford has also not singled out Miloudi. As mentioned on the posts above, he is clearly having a go at those who voted.

Our bigger problem is lack of inventiveness and this so called monster pack we have is not deliving an monster punches at the moment.

No he wasn't. Logan was given the No 4 jersey in 2016 with Mahe given the No 2 jersey and Yeamo shipped off to Doncaster. Logan was playing really well until his injury unfortunately ended his season. An injury of that magnitude is always hard to recover from but hey, don't let those facts get in the way of your anti Radford agenda.