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Quote: scarrie "Did I blame Child for those things?

I simply said he was rubbish which I think even Leeds fans would agree with.

Our discipline has been terrible lately and that can't soley be down to bad refereeing I agree.

Ultimately what lost us the game was terrible goal line defence. Once again the game was largely over as a contest by half time.

Our lack of a second hooker is hurting atm. I reckon Connor would have done a spell off the bench today if Talanoa hadn't gone off early.'"


Our lack of a first hooker is hurting, Washbrook work hard, but his passing is so slow and we miss Hoightons quick thinking.

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What was wrong with Talanoa?

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Quote: Dave K. "Our lack of a first hooker is hurting, Washbrook work hard, but his passing is so slow and we miss Hoightons quick thinking.'"


However you want to phrase it.
Not having a replacement is problematic. I don't think Washy ran from dummy half once today.
Houghtons kicking from dummy half is also an asset we miss.

Don't know why we can't defend all of a sudden though.

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Quote: Wilde 3 "What was wrong with Talanoa?'"

Hamstring. We seem to be getting a lot of soft tissue and muscle pulls/tears which we didn;t have last year

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Quote: Jake the Peg "It's your fault we're in this mess. We miss the easy 6 points'"
leeds and saints wont be complaining, what the hell has gone wrong, thought this would be your year with Kelly aboard.

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Quote: rover 2000 "leeds and saints wont be complaining, what the hell has gone wrong, thought this would be your year with Kelly aboard.'"


Still might be (although doesn't look good) as we had a similar spell last year, it's how we react and get out of this bad spell.

Just watched the try's again and it's even worst than I thought, some of the worst defending I've seen for a few seasons.

Cannot have Kelly, Fonua and Michaels defending the same side.

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Quote: Dave K. "Still might be (although doesn't look good) as we had a similar spell last year, it's how we react and get out of this bad spell.

Just watched the try's again and it's even worst than I thought, some of the worst defending I've seen for a few seasons.

Cannot have Kelly, Fonua and Michaels defending the same side.'"
although Kelly tackled above his stature he missed a lot, something fc are not used to, I suppose along with fonua does make one side weak. are teams targeting this hence the unusual weak defence?

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Quote: rover 2000 "although Kelly tackled above his stature he missed a lot, something fc are not used to, I suppose along with fonua does make one side weak. are teams targeting this hence the unusual weak defence?'"


No, we're weak right across the defensive line. Our line speed, initial contact, one on one tackling and defensive structures have been shambolic in the last 2 games

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just watched the tries back and your right its worse , mini watts and even manu not exactly covering there selves with glory, I still hope this is a blip and we come back strongly, we have the team imo, time will tell

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Sleep walking to the Championship. Discipline , Defence and ball movement shocking.
We have been conning ourselves after the Wembley win .
To concede all those points at home is criminal .

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Quote: HFC Boy "Sleep walking to the Championship. Discipline , Defence and ball movement shocking.
We have been conning ourselves after the Wembley win .
To concede all those points at home is criminal .'"


No chance are you sleepwalking into the Championship. You are missing some key players who are massive for you. This is essentially the same team as last year with a couple of additions. While my opinion of Kelly as an individual is pretty low as a player he is a quality player (sometimes). To be fair your starting 17 is very good as proved last season, however you were also fortunate in relatively few injuries, especially to key players. This year you are suffering them. On the bright side you did seem to run out of steam in the latter stages, the enforced rest for these players may be a blessing in disguise come the business end of the year.

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Quote: HFC Boy "Sleep walking to the Championship. Discipline , Defence and ball movement shocking.
We have been conning ourselves after the Wembley win .
To concede all those points at home is criminal .'"


Drama queen alert.

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Quote: HFC Boy "Sleep walking to the Championship. Discipline , Defence and ball movement shocking.
We have been conning ourselves after the Wembley win .
To concede all those points at home is criminal .'"

Unless we fall off a cliff and continue to have injuries and sin binnings every game I can't see that happening, it is a concern that we have not being firing anything like last season. Against salford and Catalans last year in the first two games we really looked cohesive especially in attack, this years start has being decidely average apart from some individual magic from kelly for example.

The opposition haven't gotten any better we are noticeably worse.
We have a better balanced squad this year IMHO and no 10-15 minute stints from Pritchard in the wrong position or leaving a junior squad forward on the bench like Thompson/AN other for 50/60 minutes which happened last year and season before which puts pressure on the other forwards.

Players don't just lose their ability to pass/make decisions so not sure why we are going backwards at a rate of knots. Not interested in injuries being the excuse, we still have 13 very capable players on the pitch and they simply aren't doing what we know they can.
Mental preparation seems lacking and mental fatigue is there in droves which leads to mistake after mistake and from that physical fatigue/panic and then more mistakes by which point even the most basic aspects of rugby have left them.

As another poster put it, Radford IS an average coach, he just enjoyed a great period with some motivated players but an over the cap squad last season with few injuries but so far this season (as per 2014/2015) has shown no indications of being able to change matters when we get a few injured and our game goes to pot.
I think we will edge Leigh on Monday and TBH we really need the win before the games afterwards or this could be a miserable mid season slump.

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Radders looks a bit fraught in his post match interview.
Think he might have been throwing a few fooks into the boys. icon_smile.gif

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Unless we fall off a cliff and continue to have injuries and sin binnings every game I can't see that happening, it is a concern that we have not being firing anything like last season. Against salford and Catalans last year in the first two games we really looked cohesive especially in attack, this years start has being decidely average apart from some individual magic from kelly for example.

The opposition haven't gotten any better we are noticeably worse.
We have a better balanced squad this year IMHO and no 10-15 minute stints from Pritchard in the wrong position or leaving a junior squad forward on the bench like Thompson/AN other for 50/60 minutes which happened last year and season before which puts pressure on the other forwards.

Players don't just lose their ability to pass/make decisions so not sure why we are going backwards at a rate of knots. Not interested in injuries being the excuse, we still have 13 very capable players on the pitch and they simply aren't doing what we know they can.
Mental preparation seems lacking and mental fatigue is there in droves which leads to mistake after mistake and from that physical fatigue/panic and then more mistakes by which point even the most basic aspects of rugby have left them.

As another poster put it, Radford IS an average coach, he just enjoyed a great period with some motivated players but an over the cap squad last season with few injuries but so far this season (as per 2014/2015) has shown no indications of being able to change matters when we get a few injured and our game goes to pot.
I think we will edge Leigh on Monday and TBH we really need the win before the games afterwards or this could be a miserable mid season slump.'"

Good post imo

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