Oh right I didn't realize crooks doesn't have to train during the week!!!

Neither did I. Seems strange but I'll take your word for it

this idea of having an fc team made up of hull born players,is akin to the yorkshire cricket team years ago,you couldn`t play for them unless you were born in yorkshire.it wasn`t working,so things had to change,and it did.a mixture of yorkshire lads and overseas players,and we are getting better results.

I think some people are under the wrong impression about the "Club Hull" philosophy. It's never been about getting a full team based solely on players born in Hull. It's always been about developing the players we have in our youth sides and trying to make these players the core of the squad. The clubs not abandoning signing players from outside of Hull (British or beyond).

Good post Doc - not that hard to understand is it ?

but they are- regarding coaching staff.

you need a list, they are called "blinkered apologists" they are few in number, but frequent in posts.

I was talking about players, not coaching staff. I've said previously that I don't think the philosophy should extend to the coaching side of the club (it's not working with the current regime). A quality coaching staff is needed and they could be from Timbuktu for all I care. If they are of the right calibre then they could easily develop the players... and get some decent results from the first team in the process.

Standee, I'm not a blinkered apologist (apologies if that wasn't aimed at me). I don't think Radford is the man for the job and I think we need a better quality coach. I also think that that coach should be able to bring his own coaching team from top to bottom.

I do, however, think that developing and building a team around players from our youth setup is something worth pursuing. I also think that if it proves too difficult and the players aren't of the sufficient calibre that the club should abandon that plan. However, player development takes time and will not happen overnight or over one season. We need to have patience in this area (as a club and as fans) to see if it can come to fruition or not.

was definitely not aimed at you, as I say, few in number (4 I think( but frequent in posts.

some of us have been SUPPORTING Hull FC for many years, and some are recent comers who profess to know everything, I'd imagine most of the sycophants never travelled to Whitehaven in December

But this is the problem, Pearson believes the Club Hull theory starts with the coaching staff, he believes he made a mistake with Gentle, perhaps he thought Gentle wasn't passionate enough and didn't 'get' the Hull thing. He's looked at Wane and McDermott and thinks he can replicate it here.

Problem is, there's more Wanes and McDermotts around the rugby league heartland but it's a very small ballpool if you look at the cul de sac that is Hull. There's Radford and McNamara and, umm... Cooke? Even Chester's from Wakey. It's just not practical. It's like the English wringing their hands that we are unable to produce a champion tennis player. The reason is it's an elite sport available only to the monied upper classes who can afford the private tuition and have the contacts to get them into the 'top' tennis clubs. Doesn't make their kids good players, just means the group from which the 'champion' is to be plucked is very small and therefore unlikely to produce the required talent. Compare that to Europe and America where most children have access to the right facilities - more kids taking part means more talent likely to be spotted.

It's simple maths, and the formula applies equally to our dilemma. Hull is too small an area to produce an abundance of world class coaches.

Do agree on fhe playing side, our core team should be developed via our youth side to our culture and style. But Pearson's recognised that from the off and immediately put plans in place to address that. But I think what he means by 'Club Hull' is definitely the coaching side consisting of passionate local talent too. I just don't think it's do-able here. Would you even call McNamara (currently 50% of what's available, or can anyone think of any others?) passionate about Hull? Would he even want to come here?

Fair enough. Apologies again.

I agree. Pearson's been misguided with the coaching staff part of the equation. He's definitely looked at Wane and McDermott and decided he wants that. Radford was probably the closest thing we could get to someone like that. Problem is is that he's not got their coaching experience and I think he needed a few more years under his belt as assistant before getting a chance at the top job.

List the folk who it was aimed at then - just for the sake of clarity.