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| If a hooker is quick enough he can escape both marker and engage with defenders before releasing the ball which helps to create gaps. At times though a quick long pass from dummy half is also effective. What I hate is a drop off back into the ruck. It's a cop out of a play.
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| Quote: PAUL M "If a hooker is quick enough he can escape both marker and engage with defenders before releasing the ball which helps to create gaps. At times though a quick long pass from dummy half is also effective. What I hate is a drop off back into the ruck. It's a cop out of a play.'"
Indeed, but it's what we do 70% of the time
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| Quote: Standee "Indeed, but it's what we do 70% of the time'"
Just watching Smith for Melbourne and everything he is does is simple but effective.
You don't have to be the best passer in the world, you just have to roll forward and have options.
He does it brilliantly.
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| Quote: WIZEB "Just watching Smith for Melbourne and everything he is does is simple but effective.
You don't have to be the best passer in the world, you just have to roll forward and have options.
He does it brilliantly.'"
The difference is, as you say, he they execute it well!
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| Quote: Standee "The difference is, as you say, he they execute it well!'"
Goes with the old saying 'Practice makes Perfect'.
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| Quote: weaver93 "Goes with the old saying 'Practice makes Perfect'.'"
We've been doing it that long we shoild be the best in the world!
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| Quote: fc baldy "Maybe but would improve us...just struggling to think who is "available"...Gaskell is a 6 isnt he?'"
I have heard that yours have offered Gaskell a deal for next season
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| There is a reason why the drop off is used. If you channel your runners into one area, the oppositions defense pulls in, thus allowing for more of an attacking move on the 4th or 5th tackle out wide. Also the drop off is used to get the next PTB where your play maker wants it, ready for a set move. Whether they execute the set move correctly is a different matter.
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| Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "There is a reason why the drop off is used. If you channel your runners into one area, the oppositions defense pulls in, thus allowing for more of an attacking move on the 4th or 5th tackle out wide. Also the drop off is used to get the next PTB where your play maker wants it, ready for a set move. Whether they execute the set move correctly is a different matter.'"
Im well aware of this but the drop off play still need to be a threatening one to draw in the defence. Which ever player is passing the ball needs an outside option to allow the man coming back on the angle a chance to make ground and just to entice the defence in enough. The way we use the drop off fools noone and doesn't create space out wide.
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| Quote: PAUL M "Im well aware of this but the drop off play still need to be a threatening one to draw in the defence. Which ever player is passing the ball needs an outside option to allow the man coming back on the angle a chance to make ground and just to entice the defence in enough. The way we use the drop off fools noone and doesn't create space out wide.'"
Then the runners aren't running hard enough. If your runners run hard and threaten an offload then the opposition defense will get drawn in. It's not all about support play, Its also about how hard your runners take the ball in.
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| Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "Then the runners aren't running hard enough. If your runners run hard and threaten an offload then the opposition defense will get drawn in. It's not all about support play, Its also about how hard your runners take the ball in.'"
Our "runners" are largely non existant so far this season, we try the drop off ball far too many times, but when we've got no kicking game to speak of then we just seem to fall back into Fubar tactics.
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| Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "Then the runners aren't running hard enough. If your runners run hard and threaten an offload then the opposition defense will get drawn in. It's not all about support play, Its also about how hard your runners take the ball in.'"
I think (for us) it's more to do with the quantity of runners than the quality.
It's usually obvious who the ball is going too giving the defence time to line them up. We need more dummy runners.
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| Quote: heard1989 "What i would like to see more and it's something easy to do.
Houghton when at dummy half he passes the ball straight away (as a hooker should i know, let me finish) but what i think he should do is just move off a little to take out the square markers. It is effective and it takes the markers out the equation.'" He does that very well when it is a simple hit up from a forward, which is when it should be used however when we are trying to get a quick spread on he just needs to deliver a fast pass to first receiver as the square marks don't need to be negated.
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| Quote: The Hollywood Frasier "He does that very well when it is a simple hit up from a forward, which is when it should be used however when we are trying to get a quick spread on he just needs to deliver a fast pass to first receiver as the square marks don't need to be negated.'"
I agree with what your saying, it's just that sometimes i think he could do it abit more as sometimes when we even pass out wide it tends to come back insides anyhow.
I was taught to do it throughout my playing days at hooker, and it it really effective if done right. That's why i mentioned it
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| Quote: Saints4eva2013 "I have heard that yours have offered Gaskell a deal for next season'"
not sure it would be the right move for us tbh id rather a myler type of 7 but beggars cant be choosers with the lack of halves about atm
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