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Quote: Neville Bartos "The smashing head against a brick wall emoticon pretty much sums up my feelings after reading that post aswel Kosh.

As my old man used to say, 'you can't educate a cabbage'.'"


Wow, after only 9 days and 10 posts and your already a master baiter!

That’s not the record though as ‘we are legion’ holds that record.

The facts are that some are basing their opinions of R Horne in his present run of form, not what happened in some distant past with better support players around him. To say that his game will much improve next year with Seymour & Heremaia on the field, is pure guess work.

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Quote: Isaiah "

The facts are that some are basing their opinions of R Horne in his present run of form, not what happened in some distant past with better support players around him. To say that his game will much improve next year with Seymour & Heremaia on the field, is pure guess work.'"


Well I'm gonna be a little more optimistic by saying that Seymour looked a decent organiser to me before he got injured earlier this season, whilst Heremaia is playing very well at present and grabbing some well deserved plaudits in a NZW team going good in the NRL.

They both appear to have a decent kicking game also so that alone will relieve a little pressure on Rich.

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Quote: Isaiah "Wow, after only 9 days and 10 posts and your already a master baiter!

That’s not the record though as ‘we are legion’ holds that record.

The facts are that some are basing their opinions of R Horne in his present run of form, not what happened in some distant past with better support players around him. To say that his game will much improve next year with Seymour & Heremaia on the field, is pure guess work.'"
Why is it guess work?
In 2004, 2005, 2006 & 2007 we finished 3rd, 5th, 2nd & 4th respectively. Horne played at 6 alongside an organiser and playmaker. He only played 3 games in 2008, in 2009 he was playing alongside Thorman FFS and in 2010 & 2011 he's had Long, who's hardly played.

So, in a team with an organiser/chief playmaker Horne has been a very good stand off in a top 4 team. Why not give him the chance to replicate that form?

As for Chase, well, he's never been in a top 4 team, has he? If he's so good why are Cas struggling down in 7th?

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Quote: JedRust "Yeh it's all horne's fault Never once implied it was..I have never implied he was cr@p....What I have said is he is very average imo!
I accept it is hard for some fans to accept that he is average, as in his day Rich was awesome and his loyalty is a credit to the shirt, however for me his awesome days are well gone and I doubt he will ever reach that form again as he has lost his speed, and his defence is not very good at all.

Nor would I settle for the likes of Briers or Brown no improvement imo, what I wanted is some-one of the calibre of Chase!

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Quote: Marfa Manu "Never once implied it was..I have never implied he was cr@p....What I have said is he is very average imo!
I accept it is hard for some fans to accept that he is average, as in his day Rich was awesome and his loyalty is a credit to the shirt, however for me his awesome days are well gone and I doubt he will ever reach that form again as he has lost his speed, and his defence is not very good at all.

Nor would I settle for the likes of Briers or Brown no improvement imo, what I wanted is some-one of the calibre of Chase!'"
Showed a good turn of pace last Friday to score.

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Quote: Marfa Manu "Never once implied it was..I have never implied he was cr@p....What I have said is he is very average imo!
I accept it is hard for some fans to accept that he is average, as in his day Rich was awesome and his loyalty is a credit to the shirt, however for me his awesome days are well gone and I doubt he will ever reach that form again as he has lost his speed, and his defence is not very good at all.

Nor would I settle for the likes of Briers or Brown no improvement imo, what I wanted is some-one of the calibre of Chase!'"

You said about him been a constant this season and said that we are fighting for the 8th and knocked out of the cup therefore implying a large portion of that is because of Horne. I for One have always liked horne and think he has been good this season and one of our more consistent players, the kicking game argument doesnt stand with me he has never been a long kicker so I blame the coach for implementing a game plan which sees Horne get the ball on the last more often than not knowing he's not the best field positional kicker, Horne has suffered from a not having a creative and kicking half back partner since Cooke, and I think Seymour/Ellis could bring the best out of him once again IMO.

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Quote: JedRust "You said about him been a constant this season and said that we are fighting for the 8th and knocked out of the cup therefore implying a large portion of that is because of Horne. I for One have always liked horne and think he has been good this season and one of our more consistent players, the kicking game argument doesnt stand with me he has never been a long kicker so I blame the coach for implementing a game plan which sees Horne get the ball on the last more often than not knowing he's not the best field positional kicker, Horne has suffered from a not having a creative and kicking half back partner since Cooke, and I think Seymour/Ellis could bring the best out of him once again IMO.'"

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Quote: Marfa Manu "Chase is a special player, he is the type of player I would like to see in an FC shirt if we seriously want to challenge, after years of h/back issues he is the type of player we should be throwing money at!
Not Brown who has played an International level as has Horney...what are Huddersfield going to win this season ? I will tell you the same as us SFA!'"

We tried that. Cas wouldn't sell at any price - in fact they'd be mad to do so. When his contract is up for renewal it'll be interesting to say the least.

Rubbishing Brown doesn't change the fact that he's playing for a top 4 club and is no better than Horne. eusa_naughty.gif

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Quote: Marfa Manu "You claimed Chase would have the same stats as Horney if he played for Hull! and you tell me to get a grip
Remind me again what battle Cas are in with a top half like Chase?

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Quote: Isaiah "The facts are that some are basing their opinions of R Horne in his present run of form'"

The present run of form that's as good as a halfback playing for a top 4 side you mean. icon_smile.gif

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Quote: PAUL M "Remind me again what battle Cas are in with a top half like Chase?'"

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This is fun. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Kosh "We tried that. Cas wouldn't sell at any price - in fact they'd be mad to do so. When his contract is up for renewal it'll be interesting to say the least.

Rubbishing Brown doesn't change the fact that he's playing for a top 4 club and is no better than Horne. Who are going to win feck all!!

I just think we should have invested heavily in that position, it is the key to success, even Green offers more imo than Horney, now do not get me wrong had Horney got a 1 yr I would have been fine with this as we have been that short the last few years it would have been worth it. like mentioned I still believe/hope Ellis will make the grade and if he does believe all I have waffled about will be realised, a 6 needs to do a heck of a lot more than Horney does.
Others which have been mentioned may have similar stats to Horney however take Briers he offers a kicking game and decent defence.

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Quote: Kosh "icon_mrgreen.gif

This is fun. Not really fun, some people really are clueless, take Chases stats in an average team like Cas then imagine what they would be in a team like ours with our forwards, not hard to figure out is it!

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Quote: Marfa Manu "Who are going to win feck all!!

I just think we should have invested heavily in that position, it is the key to success, even Green offers more imo than Horney, now do not get me wrong had Horney got a 1 yr I would have been fine with this as we have been that short the last few years it would have been worth it. like mentioned I still believe/hope Ellis will make the grade and if he does believe all I have waffled about will be realised, a 6 needs to do a heck of a lot more than Horney does.
Others which have been mentioned may have similar stats to Horney however take Briers he offers a kicking game and decent defence.'"


Green from the u20's?

He's a forward.

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Quote: Phil O'Stein "Green from the u20's?

He's a forward.'"

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