Well said. It's those of us who continue to turn up week in, week out, despite having no belief in the coach who are the real fans

No. Sadly.



Yes. Also sadly.

That's probably why they're sat at the top of the table. We're not. And we got handed our backsides last week.

You seem to be confusing potential with actual ability. A lower ability player at 100% of his potential isn't going to be as good as a better player at a lower percentage of his actual potential.

Different coach with a different approach. Bomber 'moulded' Horne into a half-back. What might he HAVE achieved in a different position?



Amen Brother!

Depends on how much lower the good player is below his potential

Good post!

I think I differ in that 'I am not yet 'convinced' that he is not the right man for the job'
I do have huge doubts about him, and I have seen nothing so far to give me even a glimmer of hope, that he could be the right man for the job.

A question that I would ask those who would be backers of Agar;
If relegation had still been a threat, would he still be on the island as head coach?

He wouldn't even be in the sheds.

Given we are now in a fitness race with certain players to be ready for our charge at the playoffs, yes i think any coach would be happy and i know our board are very happy with where we are.
Not 100% on a few result we have had but they also realise that is the nature of professional sport.. some you win and some you do not!!
Ask the wire board!!!
were very lucky to have a young british honest upstanding fella in charge that does not go missing when things get tough !!

I think you probably represent the views of about 95% of the faithful who, like you, would love to be able to believe in Agar but who cannot stop the nagging doubts eating away at the back of their mind. I reckon the vast bulk of our supporters are currently torn between their natural instincts of backing the club in any kind of weather and the unease of knowing that something is simply just not quite right under this regime. I get the feeling from the post above that deep down you know which side of the argument you will ultimately fall on. I think there are a lot of our supporters who are simply hoping against hope that somehow all will turn out well in the end without truely believing that it will.

The remaining 5% of us are split into two very distinct camps. On the one hand is the group who made up their minds some while ago. Our view is Mr Agar isn't good enough for the job in hand. He never was and never will be, and for as long as he remains in charge we will continue to go round in ever decreasing circles.

Finally, there is the smallest group of all. The ones who, despite all evidence to the contrary, actually believe we made the right appointment in May 2008. This group (I shall call them the delusionals) are the modern day equivilent of the flat earth society. Steadfastly sticking to their beliefs that the chosen one shall lead them to the promised land leaving the non believers behind.
I honestly don't know whether to admire these people for their myopic vision or pity them for their inability to see the light. Forgive them Lord, for they know not what they do.

One things for sure, this argument is going to run and run and...

and your percentages are based on which fans poll, or are they your opinions placed into percentage form??

To call them delusional is harsh, just becuase they have a belief in Agar does not make them delusional. It is a bit like calling all religious people delusional.
I think they are wrong, but there opinions are as valid as yours and mine, as long as they make them in a sensible way and don;t revert to name calling etc.

I'm not confusing anything with anything mate. I'm saying that on paper our back line isn't really significantly worse than wigan's. the fact they look miles better than ours is down to coaching