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| Quote: Rolf Harris "I have to say what an absolute load of tosh this thread is with a lot of people discussing things they know nothing about.
All we need are the torches and pitchforks.
This is being blown so out of proportion I think people are losing sight of the facts.
What he has done supposedly, is stupid. It's not worth sacking imo but I suppose it suits a lot of peoples' agendas this way.
And before the obvious posts, no I'm not Gareth, a relative or friend just someone who is keeping a level head and more interested in the club as a whole and what best suits them.'"
To be fair what he has allegedly done is more than just "stupid". It is illegal and dishonest. If he is guilty then it is a serious matter, as was the offence for which he was convicted previously.
He gets paid a lot of money to play for Hull FC and should have no need to engage in the sort of activity he has been accused of.
If he is convicted I would not be at all surprised if the club look to get rid of him. |
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| Quote: Rolf Harris "I have to say what an absolute load of tosh this thread is with a lot of people discussing things they know nothing about.
All we need are the torches and pitchforks.
This is being blown so out of proportion I think people are losing sight of the facts.
What he has done supposedly, is stupid. It's not worth sacking imo but I suppose it suits a lot of peoples' agendas this way.
And before the obvious posts, no I'm not Gareth, a relative or friend just someone who is keeping a level head and more interested in the club as a whole and what best suits them.'"
I agree that it's blown out of proportion. Lend us £100,000 would you?  |
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| Quote: Nobeerineasthull "To be fair what he has allegedly done is more than just "stupid". It is illegal and dishonest. If he is guilty then it is a serious matter, as was the offence for which he was convicted previously.
He gets paid a lot of money to play for Hull FC and should have no need to engage in the sort of activity he has been accused of.
If he is convicted I would not be at all surprised if the club look to get rid of him.'"
I agree he gets paid a lot of money and shouldn't need to engage in illegal activities and for the amount he might have made by committing this dishonsety offence you have to wonder where his brain was.
It just winds me up people banging on about stuff they have no knowledge or understanding of though.
Let's see what happens to him at court when he attends for sentencing before people make knee jerk reactions and assumptions. |
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| Quote: Rolf Harris "I agree he gets paid a lot of money and shouldn't need to engage in illegal activities and for the amount he might have made by committing this dishonsety offence you have to wonder where his brain was.
It just winds me up people banging on about stuff they have no knowledge or understanding of though.
Let's see what happens to him at court when he attends for sentencing before people make knee jerk reactions and assumptions.'"
He hasn't been convicted yet! |
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| Quote: Rolf Harris "I have to say what an absolute load of tosh this thread is with a lot of people discussing things they know nothing about.
All we need are the torches and pitchforks.
This is being blown so out of proportion I think people are losing sight of the facts.
What he has done supposedly, is stupid. It's not worth sacking imo but I suppose it suits a lot of peoples' agendas this way.
And before the obvious posts, no I'm not Gareth, a relative or friend just someone who is keeping a level head and more interested in the club as a whole and what best suits them.'"
The crime that he has been accused of is hardly 'stupid'. If proven it will have been a long term fraud that netted £100k from members of the public who would have handed over their cash in good faith. There are very few companies who would not dismiss an employee found guilty of such a crime. I'd certainly expect to lose [imy[/i job in such a circumstance, and I'm not sure why you think that Raynor should be any different - especially given his chequered history. |
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| Quote: Chris28 "He hasn't been convicted yet!'"
You've gotta love unintentional irony.  |
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| Quote: Chris28 "I agree that it's blown out of proportion. Lend us £100,000 would you? ![]()
I have £100,000 in £50 notes. The colour is a little lighter than you might be used to but they're genuine... honest.
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| Quote: Kosh "I'm not sure why you think that Raynor should be any different - especially given his chequered history.'"
I like it when people refer to things like racially-motivated assault as a 'chequered history'. |
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| Quote: Rock God X "I like it when people refer to things like racially-motivated assault as a 'chequered history'.'"
I wasn't only thinking of his previous convictions, hence the somewhat vague phrase. |
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| Quote: Rock God X "I like it when people refer to things like racially-motivated assault as a 'chequered history'.'"
It was a black & white case...
erm.... hang on... |
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| Quote: Kosh "I wasn't only thinking of his previous convictions, hence the somewhat vague phrase.'"
As I've said many times before, professional sport seems to exist in some sort of moral vaccuum. From the judiciary, to employers (the clubs) to the fans, there seems to be a lot more leeway afforded to certain members of society based solely on how well they can kick a ball, or how fast they can run. |
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| Quote: Rock God X "As I've said many times before, professional sport seems to exist in some sort of moral vaccuum. From the judiciary, to employers (the clubs) to the fans, there seems to be a lot more leeway afforded to certain members of society based solely on how well they can kick a ball, or how fast they can run.'"
Not just professional sportsmen. It extends to rock stars, actors and anyone who may be considered to be a "celebrity". |
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| Quote: Nobeerineasthull "Not just professional sportsmen. It extends to rock stars, actors and anyone who may be considered to be a "celebrity".'"
Does that include Hutchie? |
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| Quote: Nobeerineasthull "Going to have to disagree with you here Dave. I don't think its grey at all.
He can't be guilty of bringing the club into disrepute merely by being charged with something he may be innocent of.
If the club wanted to suspend him pending the court case it would be able to but it would be very badly advised indeed to dismiss him on the basis of as yet unproven allegations.'"
Youve just explained why its a grey area. A player does not need to be convicted of anything to bring a club into disrepute. |
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| Quote: Chris28 "Or if they're crap!'"
That too!!  |
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