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| Quote: tommyfromhull "What does ‘fan engagement’ look like?
Whenever Pearson talks to the media people either say what he’s said is a lie or don’t want to hear what he’s said as it’s the ‘same old’.
Myler gave an interview recently.
I’m not trying to protect the club, I’m genuinely interested in what people would like?'"
The return of proper fans forums. There's loads of questions about investment in the club, the COVID loan, the stadium lease, right through to more mundane questions like the club recently sent me a survey asking what I thought of the pre game entertainment etc
And of course some questions would be 'no comment' or batted away but we'd get a chance to raise our concerns.
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| As has been said some kind of statement after our worst loss in a generation against London at magic weekend, perhaps someone coming forward and telling us what's happening at the club in terms of investment, perhaps an update on recruitment. There's still players we know have signed yet not announced.
I just feel that there's no one at the club with any passion in any department, we're run with zero enthusiasm from the first team to the match day experience to fan engagement to any sign of a long term plan. If I was a player I wouldn't want to sign for us, we're an absolute basket case and I genuinely do fear that if this continues we will be in serious difficulty within two years
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| Quote: UllFC "The return of proper fans forums. There's loads of questions about investment in the club, the COVID loan, the stadium lease, right through to more mundane questions like the club recently sent me a survey asking what I thought of the pre game entertainment etc
And of course some questions would be 'no comment' or batted away but we'd get a chance to raise our concerns.'"
Great idea and how we need it! And as for passion at the Club there seems to be far more on here!
WE used to promote two forums a year and the club and Adam always obliged they were held latterly at the Walton Club (when the Allams got shirty about using the Stadium) and were attended by 500 it was part of the remit of FC Voices but although they still exist as a group in principle at least I have heard nothing from them for ages. Looking back to the days of HISA we do suffer from not having a strong fans group to lobby the club, we can all bleat away individually but there is now no mechanism to meet with the club as a whole community. Perhaps that suits some I don't know????
When I was chair of FC Voices (for my sins), (something we were encourage to set up by Auntie Kath) Adam would meet with me every 6 weeks where I would raise stuff, often issues raised on RL fans and he would also meet with the group every 3 months who brought fans concerns forward first hand to him. We did get some real results too. That structure and the two open forums worked well and in fairness to him Clarky was always co-operative too.
But now the fans lack any sort of pressure group to exert some 'clout' and questionnaires certainly aren't the answer. Should a new investor come forward it would be an idea time to stage a forum because there is little redress these days, as far as the paying customers are concerned, and lets face it they aint a happy bunch. It's sad HISA aint still around.
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| Quote: tommyfromhull "What does ‘fan engagement’ look like?
Whenever Pearson talks to the media people either say what he’s said is a lie or don’t want to hear what he’s said as it’s the ‘same old’.
Myler gave an interview recently.
I’m not trying to protect the club, I’m genuinely interested in what people would like?'"
I was thinking the same, what do people actually want them to engage with? For a club to have a good relationship with the fans it has to be a two way street and I’m sure if you ask people who represent the club (players, coaches, board members) they’ll probably say that fans just abuse and slag them off, mostly on social media but we’ve seen it at games too. People are entitled to their opinion and all that but it can’t be a coincidence that many people connected to the club use the word toxic to describe the fans.
That said, I’d love to hear someone from the club explaining the reasoning in allowing two of our most creative players in Hoy and Brown to leave without replacing them. We assumed at the time replacements were lined up but we had 4 months before the transfer deadline and did nothing. We had quota places and ample salary cap space. Both were off contract next year anyway so them keeping them wouldn’t have had an impact on next years recruitment. For me it’s unforgivable and the club did exactly what as Beaumont says and simply sacrificed the season the save some money.
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| Quote: DSJ1983 "I was thinking the same, what do people actually want them to engage with? For a club to have a good relationship with the fans it has to be a two way street and I’m sure if you ask people who represent the club (players, coaches, board members) they’ll probably say that fans just abuse and slag them off, mostly on social media but we’ve seen it at games too. People are entitled to their opinion and all that but it can’t be a coincidence that many people connected to the club use the word toxic to describe the fans.
That said, I’d love to hear someone from the club explaining the reasoning in allowing two of our most creative players in Hoy and Brown to leave without replacing them. We assumed at the time replacements were lined up but we had 4 months before the transfer deadline and did nothing. We had quota places and ample salary cap space. Both were off contract next year anyway so them keeping them wouldn’t have had an impact on next years recruitment. For me it’s unforgivable and the club did exactly what as Beaumont says and simply sacrificed the season the save some money.'"
problem is the truth hurts and its why many of the diehards on here hate any form of criticism of players or the club.
The club is a mess and i would go as far as saying its a basket case
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| Quote: UllFC "The return of proper fans forums. There's loads of questions about investment in the club, the COVID loan, the stadium lease, right through to more mundane questions like the club recently sent me a survey asking what I thought of the pre game entertainment etc
And of course some questions would be 'no comment' or batted away but we'd get a chance to raise our concerns.'"
A fans forum would be good.
I do believe Myler ‘gets it’, though. Time will tell.
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| For me a fans forum is very much long over due and needed so fans can sit down with club officials and have the equivalent of a 1 to 1 question and answer session. That would be a great start to engagement secondly as part of the general apathy and malaise in the club and also the all important fan base I think discussions and implementation of a new and refreshed supporters group is needed. As Pete mentioned there seems very little going on in the fans base too which needs rectifying so its a genuine active body for the fans as well as acting as a conduit to the Club.
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| Quote: Chris71 "For me a fans forum is very much long over due and needed so fans can sit down with club officials and have the equivalent of a 1 to 1 question and answer session. That would be a great start to engagement secondly as part of the general apathy and malaise in the club and also the all important fan base I think discussions and implementation of a new and refreshed supporters group is needed. As Pete mentioned there seems very little going on in the fans base too which needs rectifying so its a genuine active body for the fans as well as acting as a conduit to the Club.'"
I agree, but it needs to be at the end of this season. It needs to be a line in the sand moment, and not tar any of the new employees - players & staff - with what has happened this year.
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| Quote: Chris71 "For me a fans forum is very much long over due and needed so fans can sit down with club officials and have the equivalent of a 1 to 1 question and answer session. That would be a great start to engagement secondly as part of the general apathy and malaise in the club and also the all important fan base I think discussions and implementation of a new and refreshed supporters group is needed. As Pete mentioned there seems very little going on in the fans base too which needs rectifying so its a genuine active body for the fans as well as acting as a conduit to the Club.'"
Great ideas but it takes a special person to set up any organisation especially a sports club fan based one. That’s why we don’t have one now. Younger generations just have this attitude of “who cares, let someone else do it “ The older generation have been there and done it and bought the T shirt and probably retired Ask Wilf.
I spent my working life in the major construction industry, spent a lot of time as a shop stupid, try get one now.
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| No way on earth will they have a fans forum. It would be carnage. You only hold fans forums when things arengoing ok
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "No way on earth will they have a fans forum. It would be carnage. You only hold fans forums when things arengoing ok'"
Yep. There’s literally only one way out of this for the club and that’s to field a decent side. Engagement is absolutely pointless until that happens. I worry they just don’t have the money to enable this.
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| May be quiet looking at what Myler has assembled for 2025.
1. Walker
2. Briscoe
3. Chamberlain
4. Hardaker
5. Martin
6. Trueman
7. Abdull
8. Herman
9. Bourouh
10. Aydin
11. Holmes
12. Cartwright
13. Asiata
14. Cust
15. Ashworth
16. Fash
17. Lane
Not exactly exciting times ahead ?
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "No way on earth will they have a fans forum. It would be carnage. You only hold fans forums when things arengoing ok'"
I think if you did a fans forum as preseason starts fronted by Myler and Cartwright it would have a different vibe.
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| Quote: The Cooke Report "May be quiet looking at what Myler has assembled for 2025.
1. Walker
2. Briscoe
3. Chamberlain
4. Hardaker
5. Martin
6. Trueman
7. Abdull
8. Herman
9. Bourouh
10. Aydin
11. Holmes
12. Cartwright
13. Asiata
14. Cust
15. Ashworth
16. Fash
17. Lane
Not exactly exciting times ahead ?'"
While it's not exactly making me head to the bookmakers to get in us being top6 a good coach can make all the difference.
Good example is 2012, following an awful 2011 and lack of investment from Kath. Gentle was handed a very mixed bag of a squad with journeymen like Tony Martin and McGoldrick but it was actually one of our best seasons in the SL era and I think our best home record ever at the MKM. And that was delivered simply by improved fitness, defense and tactics.
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| Quote: DSJ1983 "Yep. There’s literally only one way out of this for the club and that’s to field a decent side. Engagement is absolutely pointless until that happens. I worry they just don’t have the money to enable this.'"
not sure about the money otherwise Myler would not be in the job but i doubt its substantial given Pearsons loans have to be repaid before he leaves the club.
My concern with this club now is lack of ambition with a rookie promoted to the important DOR position because of his family connections
The club has not been pro active enough in the recruitment market and what has been brought in Asiata apart is lazy recruitment.and just adding fillers rather than quality players for the postitions we need.
This idea that in two /three years we will be fielding a competitive team full of home grown young players as regulars is a pipe dream and reminds me when the idea was to field a team of Hull born players.
The club has dug itself into such a deep hole and alienated a lot of its fan base so without a real strategy that doesnt rely on a large bunch of younger players coming good i can see next season also been written off after the first few games.
Personally think they have to go or bust.
Use the quota of Tuimavave to give us three quota spots and get the running half and quality centre we need.
We also could do with another big mobile forward whether used in the front row or second row.
If the signings are deemed to be exciting and quality that does two things
1) helps the club sell passes because if the club loses 2/3 thousand pass holders thats an aweful lot of money to lose
2) Means we can feed into a competitive team with some quality players around a young player occassionaly as it should be done
Will it happen?i dont think so as we seem to be now relying on Cartwright to come good and save the clubs skin by identifying and bringing the required players with him.
You can imagine Myler ringing a player or agent in Australia
Hi this is Ritchie Myler from Hull FC Who?
Better to let Gaz Ellis ring first
Hi its Gaz Ellis from Hull FC Hi Gaz hows it going mate
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