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Quote: Sebasteeno "I put something on the hull live thread about him leaving saying he's always injured, thinks he's better than he is and he won't be missed and he laughed at my comment'"



Most people do!!

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Quote: Dave K. "Probably not developed as much as I thought he would do, but still improved alit last two years, strong runner, but has issues in defence main issues are the amount of long term injuries he seems to get, just about every year since he joined apart from last year.

Think the club have done right in not matching the Wakey offer, as he is a player we don't get value for money from.

Still think he could be a very good SL player if he can stay injury free'"


Do you know what Wakey offered him, according to Cam it’s speculation.

Hardaker and Chamberlain will not offer the same value for money, we will agree to differ on this one, here’s a lad who can play second row now, without waiting till he’s lost his pace,

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Quote: Riderofthepalehorse "Probably not developed as much as I thought he would do, but still improved alit last two years, strong runner, but has issues in defence main issues are the amount of long term injuries he seems to get, just about every year since he joined apart from last year.

Think the club have done right in not matching the Wakey offer, as he is a player we don't get value for money from.

Still think he could be a very good SL player if he can stay injury free'"


Do you know what Wakey offered him, according to Cam it’s speculation.

Hardaker and Chamberlain will not offer the same value for money, we will agree to differ on this one, here’s a lad who can play second row now, without waiting till he’s lost his pace,'"


How much was he offered by Wakey, did we even offer him a deal, did he decide he needed a change? I doubt any of us really know.
Its a mixed bag for me with Scott on the one had whilst he's not developed as much as many thought he's still improved year on year and isn't a bad option. Then on the other had he just never gets through a season without picking up a long term injury, admittedly some could be down to poor conditioning set up but ultimately he is another that just misses far too many games. We are losing a player that has grown with the club but does he offer any real value sat for half a season in the treatment room each year?
If we are to get back to being a side that challenges these are the decisions that should and have to be made with sentiment put aside.

As for Hardaker & Chamberlain not offering the same value as Scott, again we don't know as we don't know the deals made or offered etc, but Cam Scott won't have been playing for free and it seems we have been over paying a number of the squad.

Good luck to Cam in his future, sorry to see him bow out in the way he has.

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Quote: Chris71 "How much was he offered by Wakey, did we even offer him a deal, did he decide he needed a change? I doubt any of us really know.
Its a mixed bag for me with Scott on the one had whilst he's not developed as much as many thought he's still improved year on year and isn't a bad option. Then on the other had he just never gets through a season without picking up a long term injury, admittedly some could be down to poor conditioning set up but ultimately he is another that just misses far too many games. We are losing a player that has grown with the club but does he offer any real value sat for half a season in the treatment room each year?
If we are to get back to being a side that challenges these are the decisions that should and have to be made with sentiment put aside.

As for Hardaker & Chamberlain not offering the same value as Scott, again we don't know as we don't know the deals made or offered etc, but Cam Scott won't have been playing for free and it seems we have been over paying a number of the squad.

Good luck to Cam in his future, sorry to see him bow out in the way he has.'"


Chris if he’s improved year on year, that’s development isn’t it, he’d just about taken Carlos place.

Injury to younger players is symptomatic of the rigour of super league, there’s a host of these younger players who struggle with injuries in their early careers, Newman, Walker, Wrench, Stavely I won’t go on.

Value for money, he’s around 25, versatility, if we didn’t already have him on the books, I dare say he would be identified as a player we’d be looking at, I’ll take it a bit further, he’s probably the best centre we had on the books, can and does slot into the pack, or wing with no drama.

I’ve watched this lad home and away since he joined us, his transition into the back row surprised me, I thought it would be too much for him, but he’s handled it and shown once more his value to our club.

Journeymen replacement on long contracts is absolute madness on this occasion.

Saying all that if Cam wanted away, fair enough, and I will wish him well.

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Can be the greatest player in the world, but if you only play 11 games a season it's not too value, apart from last season, it's been a similar pattern for Scott, misses far too many games.

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Quote: Dave K. "Can be the greatest player in the world, but if you only play 11 games a season it's not too value, apart from last season, it's been a similar pattern for Scott, misses far too many games.'"


He’s 25 with plenty of time to play.

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Quote: Sebasteeno "I put something on the hull live thread about him leaving saying he's always injured, thinks he's better than he is and he won't be missed and he laughed at my comment'"


To be fair it does seem to be a funny thing for what I assume is a fully grown bloke to feel the need to have to get off their chest in such a public way about a lad who’s relatively quite young too. He’s been here a while and played under various coaches and regimes and don’t remember anyone ever having a bad word about the lad, quite the opposite. I get the impression he’s a focused lad and given his all every time he’s played for the club. Like you say he has had bad luck with injuries too that’s prevented him reaching his potential.

Reading between the lines he’s just had a good offer from Wakefield either financially or offered more game time, either way good luck to him hope it works out well.

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Quote: Riderofthepalehorse "He’s 25 with plenty of time to play.'"


Again that's no relevance, no matter what age, if they don't play its no good, Scott has a history of bad injuries. Same could be said for for Trueman, Cator and Abdul. Hopefully a change in club for him, gives him a chamge of luck.

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Quote: Dave K. "Again that's no relevance, no matter what age, if they don't play its no good, Scott has a history of bad injuries. Same could be said for for Trueman, Cator and Abdul. Hopefully a change in club for him, gives him a chamge of luck.'"


Works all ways I suppose.
Sneyd was a tough little bugger and didn't miss many but some didnt rate him and were happy to see him go.
They were wrong.

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Quote: WIZEB "Works all ways I suppose.
Sneyd was a tough little bugger and didn't miss many but some didnt rate him and were happy to see him go.
They were wrong.'"

Ah but Sneyd had that magic boot.

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Quote: Armavinit "Ah but Sneyd had that magic boot.'"


Yes, that, and seeing the dilution and deterioration of the 16/17 squad and thinking, Im getting the f00k out of here? icon_biggrin.gif
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Unless your Mingechella and have to sit down to urinate.

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Quote: Dave K. "Again that's no relevance, no matter what age, if they don't play its no good, Scott has a history of bad injuries. Same could be said for for Trueman, Cator and Abdul. Hopefully a change in club for him, gives him a chamge of luck.'"

And cust

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Of course his age is relevant, he has his career in front of him, whilst others don’t.

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Quote: Armavinit "Ah but Sneyd had that magic boot.'"


And he’s still got it buddy, I swear he deliberately dropped that left peg kick directly on top of young Moys head for Brearley to snatch, like he’s got it on a string, match winner.

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Quote: Riderofthepalehorse "Of course his age is relevant, he has his career in front of him, whilst others don’t.'"


But that's no good if we are getting 15 games a season, just look at Stevie Ward.
I'd rather have a player of similar ability who we get 24 plus games a season out of than one is injured half the season.

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