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| Noticing everyone is putting the 18 year old halfback Jack Charles in their 17s for the foreseeable….
My opinion for what it’s worth
He’s an 18 year old kid who’s been in a team who got trounced by a terrible Huddersfield and had a steady 30 minute stint vs KR, talks of him being ‘the next best thing’ ‘build a team around him’
Have none of you learned through the likes of Connor wynne who got shipped off because of the abuse or Jordan lane who gets pelters every week and hates the clubs fanbase, Jack Logan who also got touted as the next best thing, now not in the game at all, Davy litten who doesn’t get a look in, the list goes on…..
His size is nowhere near super league level he’ll get rolled by a big pack every week, let him play in the reserves and let him learn his craft without the pressure because no doubt he’ll have a few stinkers as an 18 year old does and get shedloads of abuse from fans and he’ll be put back of the line and never spoken about again…..
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| Quote: giddyupoldfella "Tinkering Tony?
He's forced each game into changes. He loses two or three players every game to injuries and suspensions.
When he keeps continuity by playing Houghton at nine, Brown and Smith in the halves and Hoy at full back, you complain about that. Keeping continuity in those positions is the oppositte of tinkering.
It's actually you that is constantly calling for the team to be tinkered with, as you have in this post I'm quoting. But more than that, you always want us to be tinkering between coaches..
It's not tinkering Tony, it's tinkering Bonaire'"
Tinkering Tony was one of his names whilst at HKR and now we all know why
He needs replacing for the good of the club as he has done nothing to enhance the playing squad since he has been here apart from as we all know make us the most indisciplined team in S/L and a laughing stock,
that should be a wake up call to all supporters as the club being called a laughing stock of R/L actually hurts.
The continual playing Houghton at nine especially when he is carrying an injury,and two nines at halfback just doesnt work.
When Houghton came on at Huddersfield replacing Brown we went backwards and when he went off at HKR and Brown went to nine we scored two tries.
Now that should tell Smith something dont you think?
What i am saying is whilst Houghton is out injured play the two nines we have as nines and move Hoy to halfback with Charles to add some speed and zip and Litten to fullback until Walker is fit.
Give it several games and if it doesnt work we have lost nothing as it cant be worse than we already have
Instead of your continual criticism of me why dont you try and post something meaningful or suggest what changes you would make as you seem to support Smith when his record here is appalling and he needs to go
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| Quote: Theeaststander1 "Noticing everyone is putting the 18 year old halfback Jack Charles in their 17s for the foreseeable….
My opinion for what it’s worth
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Fuck all.
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "love all.'"
we'll come back by round 15 which is Hull v Wire
would put very good money on him being abused to the point he gets pulled and put to the reserves.....
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Unless we can bring in someone who has worked with Smith in the past and gets on with him (as we did with Russell) we're not a very enticing prospect for potential loanees. Likely to end up injured or suspended.
Walking into a squad low on confidence and under pressure. We'd need someone of the right character.'"
Was told a few weeks back that Cory Hall from Rovers would be joining on loan after the derby, whether that will actually happens or not we shall find out shortly.
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| Quote: HU8HFC "Was told a few weeks back that Cory Hall from Rovers would be joining on loan after the derby, whether that will actually happens or not we shall find out shortly.'"
Would be disappointed if we did that personally. Hall has potential but from what I've seen doesn't physically look ready for SL. And if that's the case then we should be playing our own players who have potential, not blooding Rovers' players for them.
Bullock and Russell were the perfect loan signings. Both have a lot of experience and trying to play their way back into form who both added some solidity and reliability to our team. Hall is a relatively inexperienced kid with less than 50 games under his belt who I don't think would really improve us.
If it was with a chance to then sign him long term it could be worthwhile, but I would disagree with just a short term loan move.
Obviouls nothing concrete at the moment anyway so will wait and see how it plays out.
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| A player who has worked under Smith and not playing at Wire is Ratchford…worth a cheeky inquiry?….good pro…goal kicker and can cover fb/centre/stand off.
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| Season over, I'd make any signing one that could be looked at as long term.
Hall is better than what we have, does a good job at centre or backrow
Ratchford, no thanks.
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| C Hall named in their 21 man squad so we can probably rule that one out
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| Quote: Dave K. "Season over, I'd make any signing one that could be looked at as long term.
Hall is better than what we have, does a good job at centre or backrow
Quote: Dave K. "Ratchford, no thanks'" .'"
Better than what we have at 6 currently and be worth having til Truman fit…not my fave player but is a good option to have but I will bow to your superior knowledge.
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| Quote: The games afoot "Better than what we have at 6 currently and be worth having til Truman fit…not my fave player but is a good option to have but I will bow to your superior knowledge.'"
You really are an angry man, why get so defensive just because someone gives an opinion. You need to relax a bit.
I'd rather play Charles and Smith, I think its better for us long term, just my opinion before you get all defensive.
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| Quote: Dave K. "You really are an angry man, why get so defensive just because someone gives an opinion. You need to relax a bit.
I'd rather play Charles and Smith, I think its better for us long term, just my opinion before you get all defensive.'"
Don’t tell me what to do and you didn’t give a opinion just no thanks and not just me,notice you do it to a few posts.I was talking short term as he is better than Smith but it won’t happen and il say no more as your mate the mod will be riding to the rescue soon as the fans forum clique comes in for debate
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| Quote: The games afoot "Don’t tell me what to do and you didn’t give a opinion just no thanks and not just me,notice you do it to a few posts.I was talking short term as he is better than Smith but it won’t happen and il say no more as your mate the mod will be riding to the rescue soon as the fans forum clique comes in for debate'"
I'm not sure you understand what the word opinion means.
Not for me, is an opinion isn't it?
I also justified my reason for my opinion by giving the reason that I'd like any new signing to be a possible long term one.
Not sure what else you want.
You think it would be a good signing I don't, not sure why you ate getting so touchy about it.
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| The only silver lining to this season is the opportunity to get some youth out there and gift them experience.
All I need to see is signs they will be good enough. It's a step up, so they'll do things well and some things terribly, but having a season that is literally a write off means they can get a string of games, experience and we can get a good look.
Would hate to see any rash signings on more then a this season basis as we will perpetuate our existing problem.
Ratchford - no. Blocks the path and opportunity for Charles.
Hall - if just for this season, why not.
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| Staverley out for the season, 9 months out, absolutely gutting.
Hope we announce a new deal for him soon.
Ashworth out for about 6 weeks, Houghton out this week.
Cator and Tindall back.
If we play Cator as a hooker I'll cry.
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