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Quote: Dave K. "I'm not as confident as some on here.'"

Same.
No doubt Leigh have some huge losses but they also have some brilliant strike players left in the squad. Leutele can make any centre look stupid and Charnley is where he is in the all time try scoring list for a reason. Moylan has played nearly 200 MRL games so while I don't know much about him he's obviously way more experienced than anybody we can put out in the halves. They have solid hard working forwards.
Yes its a good chance to pick up a win, but they certainly will make it hard work for us and a close win would be a great result

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thought Leigh were very unlucky vs Leeds, on the disallowed try, don't know if anybody noticed that they were going to show the ball carrying arm before quickly reverting to the other side where it was obscured...why?? As for Kendal, he warned Leeds after the 3rd high tackle that he would take action, yet let another one go before binning Sangere(??) less than 5 to go!

Still a good team with players missing, we cant give them a head start as they seem to be a team that starts strongly.

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Ashworth 3 matches FFS

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Absolutely laughable. To get 3 matchs for an accidental clash on top of a sin bin. It's only going to get worst next season too.

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It's all wrong its disgraceful.

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Just beyond ridiculous now.
Yeah our discipline has bee shocking but our players are doing nothing that other players aren't doing (barring Pele eusa_shifty.gif ) and we're getting somebody banned every single week whereas other teams are getting nothing.
We're just stuck in a cycle so far of getting 1 player back from suspension and losing another straight away.

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Think I'd ho with

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If Houghton is out bring in Charles or Litten amd move Brown to hooker.

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I wonder if the RFL consider the well-being of the players when they're handing out nearly month long bans for simply clashing heads with an opponent.

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its the shirt isn't it? Hurrell got one game ban after last week and wasn't even penalised on the pitch! seems we are the RFLs' team to be made an example of each week!

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Percival direct shoulder contact to the head and he gets 2 games an accidental head clash gets 3….. the game has well and truly lost the plot.

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It was mentioned above, but the inconsistency with punishments is ridiculous, and has to be damaging to the players getting banned. If a player is out of contract at the end of this season and gets 3-4 games for an accidental clash of heads, that could determine whether he gets a contract or not. They are playing jeopardy with the mental and financial well being of the players. No way on earth did Ashworth deserve a ban for that tackle.

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They are strangling the game and it's going to get worse.

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The game is a complete joke now with the way the MRP and Cullen hand out totally disproportionate bans.

How Ashworth gets a ban is laughable, but to then see Percival only getting 2 for his cleaner record yet I would argue a worse offence (and done with a degree of intent) just makes it an even bigger joke. So you can take someone out using your shoulder and making direct contact with the head and get 2 games or get 3 games for a totally accidental head clash??? d040.gif

A full on contact sport like rugby league you will always run the risk of accidental head clashes and banning players for that isn't the answer. Accidental head clashes shouldn't be given such a draconian charge if any at all, but to give a Grade D is almost up there with an intentional head butt which just shows the disparity in the thinking and understanding of the game.

The RFL and the MRP are just making a complete mockery of the sport. The level of incompetence within the RFL is mind blowing as its not just the huge difference between the view/decisions made by the officials & video ref's in games to the view/decisions of the MRP but the glaring inconsistencies in the decisions and the punishments handed out with very little transparency of the findings.

Its almost as if with the number of bans and charges handed out after each round the MRP are effectively saying the on field officials are not up to standard.

I really hope AP and TS fight the RFL and MRP on this.

As for the RFL talking about its all for player welfare well that's just an excuse they are hiding their incompetence behind as the way the are dishing out bans and fines is not looking after player welfare, far from it. They are also the reason why the game is struggling in this Country and no amount of work by IMG or money thrown in will change the fact that the RFL are erroding the foundations of the sport from within. Until the game accepts that the RFL are the biggest problem and a total overhaul of how the sport is governed in undertaken the game here will continue to slide in to oblivion.

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Maybe there's mileage in Mr Beaumonts rant about pulling away from SL. He has a lot to say in wednesday's council meeting about how the game is run. Many folk fire jibes at him but, he has massive passion for the game, and will not watch the game be driven into the ground. Like him or hate him, at least he's standing up to these farcical clowns at the RFL who are running/ruining the game.

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Quote: Chris71 "The game is a complete joke now with the way the MRP and Cullen hand out totally disproportionate bans.

How Ashworth gets a ban is laughable, but to then see Percival only getting 2 for his cleaner record yet I would argue a worse offence (and done with a degree of intent) just makes it an even bigger joke. So you can take someone out using your shoulder and making direct contact with the head and get 2 games or get 3 games for a totally accidental head clash???

The difference is Chris, that Percival is a current St Helens player, while Ashworth is an EX-St Helens player.

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