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Quite a hopeful squad, this. Cant really see both Carlos and Sutcliffe been ready, maybe Sutcliffe more likely. McNamara if fit can slot back into the halves and put Hoy back at FB.

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After watching that side on Sunday, all hope and optimism I had with the new Smith era has evaporated. I genuinely, now fear for the Club's very existence, with relegation a stark reality if that is the best we have to call upon. I know Andre and Sao are rusty and, before their respective injuries, were two of the better players we have, but the edge defending would allow a championship team to fancy a crack at us. Hoy had the chance to hold up a Salford try, albeit with the game gone, but just let go of the player, meekly. Sneyd looked world class, when in reality, he isn't , as we all know, so what we do to stop Saints is frightening to think of. People cannot take another season like the last two and we are in dire trouble right now.

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Quote: GrahamBray "After watching that side on Sunday, all hope and optimism I had with the new Smith era has evaporated. I genuinely, now fear for the Club's very existence, with relegation a stark reality if that is the best we have to call upon. I know Andre and Sao are rusty and, before their respective injuries, were two of the better players we have, but the edge defending would allow a championship team to fancy a crack at us. Hoy had the chance to hold up a Salford try, albeit with the game gone, but just let go of the player, meekly. Sneyd looked world class, when in reality, he isn't , as we all know, so what we do to stop Saints is frightening to think of. People cannot take another season like the last two and we are in dire trouble right now.'"


Can't argue with your thoughts and another season of more performances and results like the one against Salford will almost certainly see the club struggling to get a large number of members & season pass holders to renew for 2024 even with the possible wholesale clear out, as its all just become too regular.

No disrespect to Salford but I really can't think of a try that you can say they created as they just simply didn't have to as our defence was a total embarrassment along with the attempts at tackling. The squad we all accept isn't good enough to challenge for the GF but it is certainly good enough to be able to put effort in at the very least and far too many on Saturday put in little, if any of that.

Friday is all about what Smith does in terms of squad changes, who he drops and how many firstly then the reaction from which ever players are lucky to make the 17. Some players should never wear the B & W again but unfortunately we aren't in the position to be able to get rid of them all such is the number that need to go asap.

All the hard work in bringing the feel good factor back in to the club and in 25mins of the first half it had taken a massive hit, by the 65th minute of the game it had almost gone then by the 80th minute it's has disappeared completely.

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Weve had coach after coach now who have continued to select the same players , its about time we had a coach whos going to drop them now. Ive totally lost interest in going to watch this bunch of players. Gone on way too long the poor attitudes

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Quote: GrahamBray "After watching that side on Sunday, all hope and optimism I had with the new Smith era has evaporated. I genuinely, now fear for the Club's very existence, with relegation a stark reality if that is the best we have to call upon. I know Andre and Sao are rusty and, before their respective injuries, were two of the better players we have, but the edge defending would allow a championship team to fancy a crack at us. Hoy had the chance to hold up a Salford try, albeit with the game gone, but just let go of the player, meekly. Sneyd looked world class, when in reality, he isn't , as we all know, so what we do to stop Saints is frightening to think of. People cannot take another season like the last two and we are in dire trouble right now.'"


Hoy is an attacking full back but you have to have something of a defence and im afraid he hasnt.
Bit underwhelmed by him at the moment as i havnt seen anything to suggest he is a Jai Field type full back.

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Quote: bonaire "Hoy is an attacking full back but you have to have something of a defence and im afraid he hasnt.
Bit underwhelmed by him at the moment as i havnt seen anything to suggest he is a Jai Field type full back.'"

I actually praised Hoy about 20 minutes in before he did chase Brierley back and drag him down just before the line (and nearly in to touch), and also swept across and put another good tackle in (can't remember who it was on) to stop 2 certain trys. It was 2 great bits of defence. But his effort on Wright was an embarrassment. Literally ran backwards with him for 5 yards then just let go.

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Not fussed about the result , I think its more about putting in a performance that puts a little pride, passion and respect back in the Jersey .

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No Carlos, Sutcliffe or Mitch.

Cator back in the squad

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Quote: mwindass "No Carlos, Sutcliffe or Mitch.

Cator back in the squad'"


Really looking forward to seeing that tenacious,tough tackling,fleet footed Josh Griffin back in the centre again on friday.
We currently have the worst two centres in S/L.The worst two second rows in S/L.The worst wing in S/L.The worst nines in S/L.The worst Front row in S/L barring Sao and Satae who i think have lost interest so irrespective of what Smith says that he expects a reaction my guess is another embarrassing thumping by Saints

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Massive trolling by Super League to schedule Saints v Hull on Comic Relief night.

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Quote: bonaire "Really looking forward to seeing that tenacious,tough tackling,fleet footed Josh Griffin back in the centre again on friday.
We currently have the worst two centres in S/L.The worst two second rows in S/L.The worst wing in S/L.The worst nines in S/L.The worst Front row in S/L barring Sao and Satae who i think have lost interest so irrespective of what Smith says that he expects a reaction my guess is another embarrassing thumping by Saints'"


I've missed your depressing monologues. Keep up the good work

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Massive trolling by Super League to schedule Saints v Hull on Comic Relief night.'"

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Reckon Smith has written this game off, look to the Leigh.

Sounds harsh, but I wouldn't be letting Mitch play in that RU army game.

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Quote: Dave K. "Reckon Smith has written this game off, look to the Leigh.

Sounds harsh, but I wouldn't be letting Mitch play in that RU army game.'"


Dont think we have a choice but its game time after injury and thats better than bringing players straight back into the first team rusty as we have seen with Savelio and Sao.
Should also get a game in the reserves at the weekend.

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I dont agree with making mass changes for the Saints game. I believe that in the main the same team should be allowed to put right the wrongs that they served up against Salford. Obviously some changes will be made depending on availabaility but basicly same again

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