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Quote: Marcus's Bicycle "I wouldn't use our last quota place on a a utility player nor matter how well Smith does. I'd use it on a second row or centre.'"


Yeah but he is a class utility player that can bring something different and make things happen.

If he doesn’t start he would definitely be on the bench for me.

Personally I would rather have him than Lovodua if he isn’t going to play hooker which is what he was brought here to do?

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Quote: davey41 "Yeah but he is a class utility player that can bring something different and make things happen.

If he doesn’t start he would definitely be on the bench for me.

Quote: davey41 "Personally I would rather have him than Lovodua if he isn’t going to play hooker which is what he was brought here to do?'"

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Agree, and bring in a specialist hooker to replace him.

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Connor has been an excellent player for Hull and very loyal, as I'm sure he has had offers from clubs. I wouldn't blame he if he left Hull for a club with better chances of winning something or a crack at the NRL.

Think we need to enjoy him while we have him, maybe the club already know this and why we are looking at Walker and Smith.

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One match at Cas not so long ago, Jake was sublime at centre, he was on the right edge, admittedly he had Albert & Ratu finishing off his classy passes and movement. He was outstanding that evening at centre all evening. A pleasure to be there.

Although I’d very much like him to be a halfback, he’s not quite nailed it there for me, as a few good men have said, this roaming role, attacking from behind the pack, and defending out wide has mileage in it. I’ve no worries about props and forwards running at him in the middle, it is what most teams try to do, isolate the weakest defenders, Mikey Lewis, Sneyd, etc, if we are keeping young Jack centre/loose forward for me.

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I’d play Jake at Loose Forward.

It would give him licence to join the line where he wants and create the chances he does.

We don’t have a ball handling Loose Forward and we need more pace at Full Back and Centre.

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Hoy has to play full back

Connor stand off
Trueman scrum half

Smith/lovodua hooker bench

Wouldn't keep walker he's done ok but isn't better than hoy or Connor so would be a downgrade

Walker will end up in the championship cause he can't get in at Leeds either hence why he's here

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I’d keep Smith over Lovodua, as it stands.

Really need to see Lovodua at 9, to see if he’s up to it. I think he’s already staying anyway.

I like Walker, but with Litten in the background I can’t see us keeping him.

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Quote: Irregular Hoops "I’d keep Smith over Lovodua, as it stands.

Really need to see Lovodua at 9, to see if he’s up to it. I think he’s already staying anyway.

I like Walker, but with Litten in the background I can’t see us keeping him.'"


The position Lovodua will play isca bigger concern than where Connor will play.

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Quote: Dave K. "The position Lovodua will play isca bigger concern than where Connor will play.'"


The more people are talking about Lovodua, even Dan Tomlinson is asking the same questions now, the more I am thinking he won’t be here next season?

If he isn’t going to be hooker then get rid and sign someone who is.

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Quote: davey41 "The more people are talking about Lovodua, even Dan Tomlinson is asking the same questions now, the more I am thinking he won’t be here next season?

If he isn’t going to be hooker then get rid and sign someone who is.'"


I thought Hodgson said that Joey will be here season?

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Quote: davey41 "The position Lovodua will play isca bigger concern than where Connor will play.'"


The more people are talking about Lovodua, even Dan Tomlinson is asking the same questions now, the more I am thinking he won’t be here next season?

If he isn’t going to be hooker then get rid and sign someone who is.'"


For me Lovodua should now be playing 9 until the end of the season as it was the position he was brought in to the club to play originally. We need to see if he will indeed make an improvement at 9 (as we expect he will). If we are not going to play him at 9 or spell Houghton then for me I fail to see the logic in keeping him especially using a valuable quota spot. Don't get me wrong I like Lovodua but he is nothing special in the halves nor is he a player that I would have at LF or SR week in week out. So unless BH starts to play in him at 9 (in what is supposedly his favoured and best position) over Houghton then why keep him at all as his quota spot is of more value elsewhere.
I'm not sure why we would even be looking to give Houghton another year deal when we have Balmforth waiting in the wings who needs games at SL, he will have a full pre season to prepare for SL plus we also have Cator who can step in to spell at 9 too. Yes Balmforths fitness has rumoured to be an issue but between now and the start of next season then the coaching and fitness staff should have him fit enough & ready to do to able to do at least 2 x 20 minute spells in a game.
Personally I just think Houghton is now well best his best and another year would be 1 too many and a needless extension.

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Quote: Chris71 "For me Lovodua should now be playing 9 until the end of the season as it was the position he was brought in to the club to play originally. We need to see if he will indeed make an improvement at 9 (as we expect he will). If we are not going to play him at 9 or spell Houghton then for me I fail to see the logic in keeping him especially using a valuable quota spot. Don't get me wrong I like Lovodua but he is nothing special in the halves nor is he a player that I would have at LF or SR week in week out. So unless BH starts to play in him at 9 (in what is supposedly his favoured and best position) over Houghton then why keep him at all as his quota spot is of more value elsewhere.'"
You would think Lovodua would be desperate to play 9 given that is where he will probably be playing at the WC. While he may be taking up a quota space I imagine his impact on the salary cap would be quite low hence why we aren't restructuring his contract and simply taking the extra year in our favour.

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Quote: davey41 "The more people are talking about Lovodua, even Dan Tomlinson is asking the same questions now, the more I am thinking he won’t be here next season?

If he isn’t going to be hooker then get rid and sign someone who is.'"


Have to agree. The fact that a new deal hasn’t been announced yet makes me wonder if he could be on his way.

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