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| Quote: mwindass "2 matches seems harsh, but probably expected with how the rulings are going
Do they take into account his NRL ban? As this is technically his first SL offence. So would've thought a 1 match ban would be correct?'"
Think the club should appeal this one.
The only difference is Prior went in as the second tackler but that shouldnt make a difference to the length of a ban.
I wonder if we will see Evans first team appearances into double figures this season?
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| Quote: bonaire "Think the club should appeal this one.
The only difference is Prior went in as the second tackler but that shouldnt make a difference to the length of a ban.
I wonder if we will see Evans first team appearances into double figures this season?'"
Don't think an appeal would be wise or successful. Under the current rules if you have had a ban within the last year you automatically get the higher end of the grade. Given Evans' ban carried over into SL it follows that he has 'form' in the last year so he automatically gets 2 whereas Prior presumably doesn't and so gets the lower end.
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| Quote: Rocknrolla69er "If only abit of common sense was applied.
The refs are too letter to the law, each incident is different you could have a blatant high tackle with nasty intent fair enough red/yellow card and a subsequent ban, no arguments
But there has got to be scope for common sense applied, if a tackle situation changes and a player slips into somebody, with the tackler not being able to change his stance, then this has to be recognised, especially after watching a replay 3 or 4 times, surely common sense comes Into play.
The panel should know better absolutely no excuses, it's not fit for purpose'"
Lets be honest the part of your post I've highlighted in bold is for me the biggest issue in that the RFL, Officials and the disciplinary panel seem devoid of any sense, common or otherwise.
Its seems from the interview with Moorhouse its agenda she is pushing through regardless of any collateral damage these heavy handed and ill thought out decisions are having on the game. There is an element of risk in any sport especially one that is founded on physical contact like RL. For Moorhouse to tell two ex players that played at a high level that the examples they used (in relation the points they raised) were not very good ones then said that Netball is a better example to use pretty much sums up all that is wrong within the organisation ruining sorry running the game.
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| How do they get these jobs?
What qualifys them, just incompetence at the top of the game
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| Quote: Rocknrolla69er "If only abit of common sense was applied.
The refs are too letter to the law, each incident is different you could have a blatant high tackle with nasty intent fair enough red/yellow card and a subsequent ban, no arguments
But there has got to be scope for common sense applied, if a tackle situation changes and a player slips into somebody, with the tackler not being able to change his stance, then this has to be recognised, especially after watching a replay 3 or 4 times, surely common sense comes Into play.
The panel should know better absolutely no excuses, it's not fit for purpose'"
The issue is that the players are employees of the clubs.
It is clear that being beaten about the head causes long term brain injuries.
We can probably expect legal cases resulting in very large amounts of compensation being paid to damaged ex players.
If the games authorities and clubs are not seen to be taking very serious efforts to prevent head injuries then the game will find it impossible to get insured.
This would mean that the professional game simply stops.
No professional games, no clubs. All gone.
Hence they have no choice other than to crack down on contact with the head - accidental or deliberate contact does not change the nature of the damage.
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| Quote: bonaire "If Mau is fit i hope the club rotate him sensibly and dont try and have him on the field for 80 mins.'"
If Lane is fit. I'd start Manu on the bench.
As you say ideally he won't play the full 80
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| Quote: bornagain "The issue is that the players are employees of the clubs.
It is clear that being beaten about the head causes long term brain injuries.
We can probably expect legal cases resulting in very large amounts of compensation being paid to damaged ex players.
If the games authorities and clubs are not seen to be taking very serious efforts to prevent head injuries then the game will find it impossible to get insured.
This would mean that the professional game simply stops.
No professional games, no clubs. All gone.
Hence they have no choice other than to crack down on contact with the head - accidental or deliberate contact does not change the nature of the damage.'"
Very well summed up. Hodgeson said we need insurance to play and that's the end of it. The discussion should be where do we go now. It's not clear what the sport will look like in a few years once the rules are settled on and the players get used to them. I'd imagine there will be a shed load more offloads for starters. Will it destroy the game? I'll still be going. What else am I gonna do with my time?
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| Quote: C for Cuckoo "Very well summed up. Hodgeson said we need insurance to play and that's the end of it. The discussion should be where do we go now. It's not clear what the sport will look like in a few years once the rules are settled on and the players get used to them. I'd imagine there will be a shed load more offloads for starters. Will it destroy the game? I'll still be going. What else am I gonna do with my time?'"
How do they get insurance for UFC, Boxing, MMA etc when that is a sport that is about hitting the head, whereas typically RL is accidental contact
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| Quote: Irregs#16 "How do they get insurance for UFC, Boxing, MMA etc when that is a sport that is about hitting the head, whereas typically RL is accidental contact'"
I don't know - but it probably has something to do with the fact that they are all independant contractors, not employees.
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| Quote: Irregs#16 "How do they get insurance for UFC, Boxing, MMA etc when that is a sport that is about hitting the head, whereas typically RL is accidental contact'"
I guess they sign a waiver
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| Quote: Irregs#16 "How do they get insurance for UFC, Boxing, MMA etc when that is a sport that is about hitting the head, whereas typically RL is accidental contact'"
UFC fighters all have to be insured for brain injury. I assume other sports are the same.
I don't think a waiver would hold up in court. It might even imply that the employer knows the risk and has failed to protect employees. If they worked then I bet all our bosses would make us sign them instead of forcing us to watch videos about picking up cardboard boxes.
(I'm an independent contractor and I have to watch the box videos every 3 months.)
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| Well there is an easy answer - tackle round the legs. Yes there would be more offloads and line breaks but the game can get boring to watch sometimes , this would liven things up a bit.
I know the game has moved on but when I played, we were coached to hit the waist and slide and lock the hands.
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| RFL exclusive Paul Cullen was thrilled to announce:
“Kane Evans makes history, making his home debut on the last day of the season”
Cullen was reported to have said, because of Evans record, his size, and the now long forgotten art of tackling aggressively, we have made great strides going forward, not only are we able to shove it up Hull again, but more importantly make pass holders consider any future investment in rugby league.
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| Hudds are likely to be virtually unchanged with only ikahihifo who failed his HIA missing from last week. Watson could go with Wilson who played the week before, club captain Lawrence or go with a bit more size in Mason, we have plenty of choice up front. I think this will be a very interesting match up with Hudds having some speed around the ruck and in the middle in Levi, pryce and lolohea whereas Hull lack pace in the middles but probably have a bit more pace out wide.
I expect watson to want to play a kick early and long game and get your middles turned around as much as possible in the first half.
lets hope the man in the middle is a bit more sensible this week but im not going to hold my breath.
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