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| Jamie Shaul is amazing - in broken play, not structured plays. He is the type of player that can score from nothing, which is useful but as a pivot, his input is so limited that we cannot afford to play him as a fullback. It is a great shame that his passing is so limited, if he could improve that side, I think he would have done so already, for me that talent is not coached in to a player it is a natural trait that some are born with, but not Jamie.. If he had the skills that Connor has, his potential would be virtually limitless in the British game. I'd often thought he'd be a great hooker but again, he lacks the distribution skills required. Nice problem to have though, excellent for squad rotation and to keep Jake on his game.
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| Quote: fc 4eva "My first comment for a few years on here, i have to agree Josh looks as though he could be the missing link we have been missing for so long.
Brave and committed a real team mentality and takes on the line, really looking forward to seeing him in the Hull shirt.
Brett wouldn't have risked big money on him ,he must have complete faith in him.'"
Tbf I think we got all that stuff from Kelly too. I think Reynolds is perhaps a smarter player than Kelly though. Albert had a tendancy to overplay and often made errors doing it. I think Josh is a better decision maker.
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| Quote: GrahamBray "Jamie Shaul is amazing - in broken play, not structured plays. He is the type of player that can score from nothing, which is useful but as a pivot, his input is so limited that we cannot afford to play him as a fullback. It is a great shame that his passing is so limited, if he could improve that side, I think he would have done so already, for me that talent is not coached in to a player it is a natural trait that some are born with, but not Jamie.. If he had the skills that Connor has, his potential would be virtually limitless in the British game. I'd often thought he'd be a great hooker but again, he lacks the distribution skills required. Nice problem to have though, excellent for squad rotation and to keep Jake on his game.'"
Have said many times Hull should use Shaul as a nine now the rules have changed.His running with the ball from acting half would be sensational.
You dont need distribution skills to be able to pick up a ball and pass to a first receiver.
In any case he cant be worse at passing a ball than Danny Houghton as was shown yesterday.
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| Quote: GrahamBray "Jamie Shaul is amazing - in broken play, not structured plays. He is the type of player that can score from nothing, which is useful but as a pivot, his input is so limited that we cannot afford to play him as a fullback. It is a great shame that his passing is so limited, if he could improve that side, I think he would have done so already, for me that talent is not coached in to a player it is a natural trait that some are born with, but not Jamie.. If he had the skills that Connor has, his potential would be virtually limitless in the British game. I'd often thought he'd be a great hooker but again, he lacks the distribution skills required. Nice problem to have though, excellent for squad rotation and to keep Jake on his game.'"
I've often thought that Shaul is our best winger who has had to play FB because we didn't have anyone better. Now he is no.2 FB he can challenge for a wing spot. Assuming he makes a full recovery he is fast, can get on the end of a break, can beat multiple defenders and is safe in defence. Further, he can come inside early in the set and run from dummy half. Too early to say for sure but I reckon he is more likely to oust a winger than Connor.
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "My first comment for a few years on here, i have to agree Josh looks as though he could be the missing link we have been missing for so long.
Brave and committed a real team mentality and takes on the line, really looking forward to seeing him in the Hull shirt.
Brett wouldn't have risked big money on him ,he must have complete faith in him.'"
Tbf I think we got all that stuff from Kelly too. I think Reynolds is perhaps a smarter player than Kelly though. Albert had a tendancy to overplay and often made errors doing it. I think Josh is a better decision maker.'"
For me the difference between Kelly and Reynolds is down to team play. Kelly was an excellent player for us but the big problem was a lot of what he did was off the cuff and none of the team knew what he was doing or thinking as he didn't seem to play to any structure (even at Rovers) he seemed to just have a free role.
Reynolds seems to have the same if not more technical and natural ability but also seems a much more disciplined player in terms of the roles and structures in play.
That may well be down to the lack of structures and what Kelly was told to do by Radford etc but I think Josh Reynolds is certainly the better fit for us with Sneyd etc.
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| Quote: Chris71 "For me the difference between Kelly and Reynolds is down to team play. Kelly was an excellent player for us but the big problem was a lot of what he did was off the cuff and none of the team knew what he was doing or thinking as he didn't seem to play to any structure (even at Rovers) he seemed to just have a free role.
Reynolds seems to have the same if not more technical and natural ability but also seems a much more disciplined player in terms of the roles and structures in play.
That may well be down to the lack of structures and what Kelly was told to do by Radford etc but I think Josh Reynolds is certainly the better fit for us with Sneyd etc.'"
In his after match interview though he did say he was more of an off the cuff player and had to remember to play to the game plan.
Think both players are similar but Hodgson is the difference to be honest and the way he sets the team up.
Reynolds was given licence to play on either side of the pitch were as Kelly was predominantly played down the right and Sneyd on the left in the Radford era.
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| Quote: Bombed Out "Quote: Bombed Out "For me the difference between Kelly and Reynolds is down to team play. Kelly was an excellent player for us but the big problem was a lot of what he did was off the cuff and none of the team knew what he was doing or thinking as he didn't seem to play to any structure (even at Rovers) he seemed to just have a free role.
Reynolds seems to have the same if not more technical and natural ability but also seems a much more disciplined player in terms of the roles and structures in play.
That may well be down to the lack of structures and what Kelly was told to do by Radford etc but I think Josh Reynolds is certainly the better fit for us with Sneyd etc.'"
In his after match interview though he did say he was more of an off the cuff player and had to remember to play to the game plan.
Think both players are similar but Hodgson is the difference to be honest and the way he sets the team up.
Reynolds was given licence to play on either side of the pitch were as Kelly was predominantly played down the right and Sneyd on the left in the Radford era.'"
I agree a lot is down to Hodgson and suggested that might have been how Radford wanted Kelly to play or maybe just didn’t have the players disciplined enough or define the roles enough. That’s is probably why AP went for BH to take us forward. Was good to see AP smiling and enjoying the game rather than being totally frustrated.
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| Quote: Bombed Out "Reynolds was given licence to play on either side of the pitch were as Kelly was predominantly played down the right and Sneyd on the left in the Radford era.'" I pointed that out on the game thread, there is no way our passing would have been fast enough to get Connor in the 3 on 2 situation for the Griffin try if it wasn't Sneyd passing to Reynolds.
That try was clearly a off the training pitch structure play. The PTB was to the side of the post to open up a 60/40 split with Sneyd and Reynolds doubling up, Manu really sold his dummy run to get Connor even more space on the outside.
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| Quote: The Hollywood Frasier "I pointed that out on the game thread, there is no way our passing would have been fast enough to get Connor in the 3 on 2 situation for the Griffin try if it wasn't Sneyd passing to Reynolds.
That try was clearly a off the training pitch structure play. The PTB was to the side of the post to open up a 60/40 split with Sneyd and Reynolds doubling up, Manu really sold his dummy run to get Connor even more space on the outside.'"
It makes a nice change to actually have an attacking structure to discuss
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| Quote: bonaire "Have said many times Hull should use Shaul as a nine now the rules have changed.His running with the ball from acting half would be sensational.
You dont need distribution skills to be able to pick up a ball and pass to a first receiver.
In any case he cant be worse at passing a ball than Danny Houghton as was shown yesterday.'"
He'd be a worse version of Brad Dwyer at 9. He hasn't got the decision making to play 9, never mind the workrate.
He'd be best off on the wing
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| Quote: Dave K. "This is what a lot of us have been saying for a year or two now, you can't have Shaul and Sneyd as two of your pivots as neither are creative enough or have that good a passing game.
Having Reynolds with Connor as FB, makes our passing much faster and accurate, there is no way Shaul would have put Griffin through that gap.
We do lose some pace, so would love to see Hodgson working wit Shaul to improve his passing and decision making in the opposition's 20, this would gives us even more competition for places.'"
We lose a lot of pace and hope im wrong it's exactly what will hold us back against the best teams
Couldn't help but think when Reynolds jumped on that loose ball and went 30 metres Kelly would of gone the full length
And against the best they need to be scored and apart from wingers we don't have anyone fast enough to go full length now
But that said Reynolds bring so much leadership and gives everything and doesn't take a backwards step and hopefully will rub off on the squad
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| After 3 seasons at West Tigers where he suffered frustrating injury and selection problems it was a pleasure to see him back in the groove again and obviously enjoying his role. Fingers crossed he can steer clear of major injury.
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| Quote: mwindass "He'd be a worse version of Brad Dwyer at 9. He hasn't got the decision making to play 9, never mind the workrate.
He'd be best off on the wing'"
He'd be best off on a plane to Dallas!
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| Interview with Josh Reynolds on Aussie radio recorded a couple of days before the Huddersfield game.
rlhttps://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id
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| Quote: GrahamBray "Jamie Shaul is amazing - in broken play, not structured plays. He is the type of player that can score from nothing, which is useful but as a pivot, his input is so limited that we cannot afford to play him as a fullback. It is a great shame that his passing is so limited, if he could improve that side, I think he would have done so already, for me that talent is not coached in to a player it is a natural trait that some are born with, but not Jamie.. If he had the skills that Connor has, his potential would be virtually limitless in the British game. I'd often thought he'd be a great hooker but again, he lacks the distribution skills required. Nice problem to have though, excellent for squad rotation and to keep Jake on his game.'" i agree on your hooker opinion plus it would give him more time to pick/plan his passing ? a set start off the floor ,imo with his scoot ability it could make him quite a weapon in our armory
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