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Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?:



Quote: Bombers Double Chin "Surely the club can obtain loans secured against their “Intangible Assets”?

Or are they actually worthless after all ?'"
Intangible assets are not worthless when clubs are in a position to buy and sell players.

The situation has changed drastically, if you hadn't noticed.


Quote: Bombers Double Chin "The FC chairman says the club’s loan application has been refused due to historic debt despite regularly balancing the books under his ownership since acquiring the club nine years ago.'"


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I find it hard to believe the Club have never had any loans before?
We must have really been making good money until now then !
To pay rent and the ground , and players and staff wages . Day to day running costs is good Management on the Sky money ,and sponsorship, and merchandise sales !!

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Who's said we haven't had loans in the past? Of course we have, but the situation is different now, no real income streams, sponsors on the brink, Mr Allam probably turning the screw, and we already owe the bank plenty - that's what "making a financial loss" really means.

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Going back to the OP, we need players to run the reserves comp, so those not considered good enough for the first team would probably be considered for the reserves.
That said, I wonder if reserve squads will be ditched as part of cost cutting by all clubs. Its going to be very interesting and I feel some will fall by the wayside.

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Quote: Zuider "Going back to the OP, we need players to run the reserves comp, so those not considered good enough for the first team would probably be considered for the reserves.
That said, I wonder if reserve squads will be ditched as part of cost cutting by all clubs. Its going to be very interesting and I feel some will fall by the wayside.'"

Reserve compy got scrapped yesterday - with future cost cutting i doubt itll be back for a while if ever

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Very heartening piece this and in the true spirit of Hull FC

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... on-4077520
Very heartening piece this and in the true spirit of Hull FC

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... on-4077520


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Quote: Bombers Double Chin "Surely the club can obtain loans secured against their “Intangible Assets”?

Or are they actually worthless after all ?'"


The business model for rugby league clubs isn’t very sound. Huge money sink holes but little opportunity to earn big money. Relying too much on Sky and on merchandise but with nothing happening those money making opportunities disappear.
Wasn’t Adam posting losses over the last couple of years. A poor case for loans given the circumstances. We should be pressuring the government to give grants to save local attractions.

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Quote: HFC Boy "Who is Rovers big backer ?'"

The same multimillionaire that's about to pay 7 figures for Craven Park? Fair to assume they will be readly buffered against the impact of the virus.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "The same multimillionaire that's about to pay 7 figures for Craven Park? Fair to assume they will be readly buffered against the impact of the virus.'"

Hudgell isn't worth as much as people seem to think. and the Council have reneged on the sale of CP as far as I know)

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Quote: IR80 "Hudgell isn't worth as much as people seem to think. and the Council have reneged on the sale of CP as far as I know)'"

They may have reneged but the point being he has this sort of free cash kicking around anyway to easily repurpose to cover wage costs etc, making them much better placed to weather the storm/avoid furloughing and wage cuts etc.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "They may have reneged but the point being he has this sort of free cash kicking around anyway to easily repurpose to cover wage costs etc, making them much better placed to weather the storm/avoid furloughing and wage cuts etc.'"

You know for a fact he has money in cash reserves...?

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Quote: IR80 "You know for a fact he has money in cash reserves...?'"


She knows full well that Rovers are in the same precarious position as every other club in rugby league.

At a time when we are all supporting each other in this city and Robins/Airlie Birds are stood alongside each other each Thursday applauding our key workers, she seeks to divide us.

New low in my opinion and probably highlights that she doesn't live in our great city and appreciate that despite the banter we all want each others club to come out of the other side of this.

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Quote: R.B.A "She knows full well that Rovers are in the same precarious position as every other club in rugby league.

At a time when we are all supporting each other in this city and Robins/Airlie Birds are stood alongside each other each Thursday applauding our key workers, she seeks to divide us.

New low in my opinion and probably highlights that she doesn't live in our great city and appreciate that despite the banter we all want each others club to come out of the other side of this.'"

Sanctimonious conjecture and unnecessarily personal. Bringing support for key workers into it? Seriously?

This is a thread about Hull FC's survival. Clubs with wealthy backers are better insulated than those without. I listed half a dozen clubs in this bracket and was then asked a specific question about your club, and referenced that your chairman a few weeks ago had the necessary financing to pay a million for the ground; Pearson said ages ago that in relative terms to Hudgell he is a financial pauper. What I'm saying is that in relative terms the personal wealth of your owner provides a buffer we don't have, in the same way the likes of Moran will likely be able to shield Warrington, and to a greater extent. It's a fact that some clubs will have assets to leverage (eg ground ownership), and/or wealthy backers and will therefore be at lower risk. Hull FC are facing the reality of this right now and are at severe financial risk.because we have neither. Please don't make this about me, where I live, and fabricate some divisional agenda. It's untrue and unnecessary in addition to derailing the thread.

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Quote: R.B.A "She knows full well that Rovers are in the same precarious position as every other club in rugby league.

At a time when we are all supporting each other in this city and Robins/Airlie Birds are stood alongside each other each Thursday applauding our key workers, she seeks to divide us.

New low in my opinion and probably highlights that she doesn't live in our great city and appreciate that despite the banter we all want each others club to come out of the other side of this.'"



Have to agree R.B.A, it does seem rediculous to be even trying to bring KR into a thread about the fragility of FC. Like many, I have questioned Mrs B's motives in the past, this latest 'contribution' just reinforces my suspicions. I question when she posts the word "we", her little rant shows true colours, calling out anyone for derailing is lughable from her.

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Quote: IR80 "Have to agree R.B.A, it does seem rediculous to be even trying to bring KR into a thread about the fragility of FC. '"

Just for clarity, this was my post highlighting 7 clubs (maybe Catalans as well in hindsight) replying to Isiah's post
And here is the post bringing KR specifically into it that I subsequently replied to

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