Think its the right time to play them,after the euphoria of the WCC,for wigan it will be after the lord mayors show.

What euphoria? They got beat.

I definitely think something needs to happen with the pack, I don't often agree with Seb, but I am definitely thinking along the same lines as him this time.

I am sure Ellis won't play, but it wouldn't be the worst idea in the world if he did imo.

Personally I would leave Miloudi on the wing for now (well actually I would go with Ratu but I don't think that is an option). Hakim might have been poor against Cas but he has had good games on the wing before. I would give him another shot. Move Connor to centre, push Griffin into the back row and Manu to prop. Gives us a bit more pace and power in the second row and size in the front row. Drop Paea and give Levy a shot, and let's have a look at Fash as well, at least we know he will give us great work rate.

Shaul
Faraimo
Connor
Tuimavave
Miloudi
Kelly
Sneyd
Masi
Houghton
Manu
Griffin
Minichiello
Westerman

Levy
Fash
Hadley
Litten

The euphoria of the game and representing england against oz. May I congratulate you on spotting wigan lost,I would think losing a big match like that anything after that would be an anti climax.

How about we don't start panicking after 2 games of the season? 2 games in which we've been ok, and with a bit more more luck and being a bit more clinical, we could have won both..

I think we should do as little tinkering with the team as possible. But let's see who we have available to play for us first.

I don't think a club like Wigan would consider simply being there to be euphoric. They have seen it all before, and I'm sure are gutted to have lost.

We are disappointed at Wigan but can't wait for Sunday against you guys.
Bad news for us is that Liam Farrell is out for around four months. Hopefully someone from the youth set up will come in on the bench with Isa starting in the 2nd row. That's what I reckon anyway.
Will be surprised if Ellis plays but know he's always been quality and that won't have changed.

No one is panicking yet but couple our start to the season, our losing streak of last and our unwanted records even you must see why people are concerned.

I like your simplistic view of our games too, "with a bit more luck" what does that actually mean?
It's not luck we need but the ability to cross the try line and do you not think with a little bit more luck for the opposition the winning margins could have been bigger. There's 2 teams on a pitch you know it's not all about us.

And I think we all know Lee doesn't like to tinker with his teams. Same old players regardless of performance wereas a maverick like Miloudi does not fit in to Lee's style of play.

We can't win the game out wide if we don't win the forward game

We'll get soundly beaten at wigan, will probably be hudds first win of the season and we all know what will happen against leeds. High % chance we'll be 0 - 5 an on a run of 16 consecutive defeats. If that happens I can't see how pearson could stick with radford despite what he achieved in 16 & 17.

Let's hope that london don't pick up any more wins

Where we are after 9 games will almost be certain where we finish - been borne out in almost every season for all teams.

Unless LR resigns if we start 0-5

Wakefield were one of the only exceptions to the 9 game rule. They fired their coach and John Kear worked a miracle

think we will win 2/3 out the next 4

score predictor - a season defining 64-10 loss

You said this last season and I proved you wrong.

I am aware that it will be difficult to get anything from this game as can’t see us getting any success down the middle. That’s why I said our ‘only hope’ is to get the ball wide quickly, ‘hope’ being the key word.