Anything changed pre season? NO

Still ineffective in attack
Too many unforced errors
usual indiscipline
goal line defence again very poor

I have said before just dont get the signing of Dawson he is bang average and not Super League standard
I expect Ratu to sign before the month end and will start at HKR.Much better defence than Dawson,brings the ball out with some power and as we know has pace.
We seems to be a little fitter than last season but that wont compensate for lack of size in the front row and i can see us being rolled down the middle by most of the opposition until we get Green and Bowden back and Westerman who also stiffens our middle.
If Kelly is also out for 4/6 weeks which seems likely given the club have gone quiet on his injury then in reality we could be looking at 0-4,confidence again at a low and Radford hanging onto his job till Easter before changes are made.
New Australian coach with Gaz Ellis as his assistant.New style,new ideas and someone who can attract some quality players for 2020 when we have a clearout.

all positive then, I didn't go because its a friendly, as far as I know no points available, its a hit out get the cobwebs of, am cert not gonna lose sleep over it, the injuries worry me more, dawson seems to be the new whipping boy before he has even played a single meaningfull match,makes a change from griffin I suppose,

Its not just the scoreline or its a friendly warm up game its the fact that we have had a full preseason and apart from we look a little fitter nothing has changed in our ineffective attack,unforced errors,and indicipline so you have to ask why?
Surely you can see thats something to be concerned about going into a very difficult season start.

Your right....No points in friendlies and neither in any of your last 11 games of last season. You beat Doncaster convincingly according to your HDM pundit, but lost both now on the trot to Super league clubs. Massive pressure on your team and coach now to start the new season well

Is there a protocol in place for hull2524 becoming the board’s voice of reason?

I’m not saying you definitely won’t be cack, and I hope you are. But it’s a run out.

vs Huddersfield in 2016 for us was different, btw, for anybody who remembers my despondent response to that.

I will wait until we play a proper game before I start to get too negative about anything, but I must admit alot of the excitement I had for the upcoming season has drained away rapidly. The result is irrelevant. My main concern is that despite identifying the need to score points, our only options still appear to be a kick to the corner or a bit of brute force and ignorance. And if that doesn't work we are pleading for Connor or Kelly to produce something out of nothing, and they might both be missing for the start of the year.

Hopefully we will start to look a bit slicker when we knock the rust off a bit, but it's a worry.

And since other people have mentioned it, there is no doubt in my mind that MDJ will play left wing against Rovers. It should be Miloudi or even Ratu, but I can't see it.

And who's "Rubyred1", he's certainly been around a lot longer than his account suggests.

Ffs

Victory in the derby and it will be the trolls who will be panicking

Non of this a surprise surely , did anyone really think our style of play would change , with the lack of quality signings and players been a year older , will be the same as last season. Excited for the start of the season, but not expecting a great deal from us, we have a team that could produce good rugby , just not the coach to implement it , the biggest off season signing , should of been someone to assist radford , but yeh ho, same old same old , we'll see

Head Coach Lee Radford says today’s final friendly against St Helens gave him an insight on what his side need to work on in the final weeks of pre-season, while praising the hosts for their performance.

You have to laugh
He just needed to ask the fans

We clearly just have more rust to knock off us than Wakey or Saints.
It's not the losing that bothers me just the same old same dross play we churn out. Kick to the corner or barge over 1 man rugby.
Hull2524 bangs on about it being a friendly and that is true, a chance to implement new drills/plays try something different but not us.
Saints were great bringing the ball out of back field, speed of pass pace in the centres/wings. We struggled to get out of our 40.
Dawson Jones is certainly no whipping boy but on todays performance and Saints fans laughing at us signing him I hope he is not going to be a starting winger in our 1st game.

This was what I was worried about; continuation from the end of last season.

Sorry I didn’t get to go to the match at Saints
I have to read what I can on here and in the Mail
This was the same pre season last year I believe
Nothing exciting and then a poor season

HOW on earth can Radford change this ?

Today was the day to showcase any new styles and mentality

By all accounts it was dross

I’ve said before that Redford will be the first coach sacked/resigned this season

Name a stand after him and let’s appoint the best Aussie we can

Then the very same players will deliver the success